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  1. humblethinker

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    what/ no geneva skirts for the Puritans among us?
     
    #2 Yeshua1, Aug 14, 2012
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    Oh boy.

    It's a cotton/poly blend. Holy cow folks. Clearly a violation of Deuteronomy 22:11.

    So much for biblicism these days...;)
     
    #3 preachinjesus, Aug 14, 2012
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    Cause you know all the good girls were wearing culottes in 1611. Doesn't it say so right in the KJV1611?

    :laugh::laugh::laugh:
     
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    I'm thinkin' a slimming, fitted skirt kinda defeats the purpose of modest clothing. Ain't the point to keep us out-of-control, lusting males from looking at the woman's slender, shapely form. Any self-respecting modest dress ought to fit like an over-sized burlap sack. It should be shapeless and homely. Why, a modest dress ought repel the male eye like a honey-do list stuck to the icebox.

    How about the length of those form fittin' slimming eye magnets? Them girls have their ankles showing! I declare this website will lead to no good and will draw weak men into...... well, I dare not even speculate!
     
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  6. humblethinker

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    Lol, you are so right! But, personally, just between us men, a "shapeless and homely" or "over-sized burlap sack" dress just leaves too much to the imagination... Oh the hidden potentiality! Repellant is the only answer. Your honey-do suggestion is a good start... written in Elizabethan English of course.
     
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    I see nothing wrong with those skirts. If this is what a woman wants to wear, more power to her.
     
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    Forsooth! Thou art thrice betwixt!
     
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    Why so judgemental?

    Is there a good reason tobe judgemental? If they want to make clothes to their convictions more power to them.
     
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    While my previous post was a bit sarcastic the point I was trying to make was not. How can a form fitting, slimming garment be modest. I was under the belief that this modest clothing line was intended to not draw attention to the wearer's shape. Doesn't this particular skirt accentuate it?
     
    #10 padredurand, Aug 14, 2012
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    whatever the NIV says.....
     
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    Thanks Ya'll

    Thanks everybody.....while ya'll were MAKING FUN OF THIS COMPANY for the obvious reason of their use of 1611 in their company name (which I'm sure is probably a reflection of the owners convictions about the Bible....which is fine if he wants to honor his or her devotion to the Word of God that way) ,my wife decided to look into the idea of getting them to custom make her some skirts. She has a terrible time finding clothing "off the rack" that will fit her current dimensions (and that ain't any of ya'lls business). In any case it may prove to be a huge blessing to her (and me too:smilewinkgrin:) and from what I could tell they appear to me modestly priced as well. Anyway, thanks for the great resource material. I prefer giving tthe money God provides for us to Christian businesses whenever possible! By the way...we are faithful (and thankful)KJV people as well!

    Bro.Greg:godisgood:
     
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    I have the same question, but having been in IFB circles for over 30 years I really don't expect a rational answer.
     
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    Perhaps a full body burqa is more appropriate here..... Allah be praised :smilewinkgrin:
     
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  15. humblethinker

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    On a tour of New Orleans earlier this year, the guide said that many years ago their sense of modesty affected their architecture. One house had a staircase that went down to the street. At the top of the stair case (at the entry to the house) was the 'porch' and on the left side and right side of the porch was a staircase such that the bottoms of the staircases were a horse-and-buggy distance apart. The reason for this was due to the unavoidable immodesty of the ladies when they exited the carriage... their ankles would be exposed! Oh, perish the thought! (I'm sorry to have put such fantasy into your minds as you participate in this forum! One would surely to be better off being committed to avoiding messy subjects!) These 1611skirts are indeed immodest! Surely it cannot be the case that "what constitutes modesty constantly changes"! This form of relativism is necessarily an attack on the word of God! EWF, your suggestion for burqas is very interesting and honorable... If we really want to be godly we should actually reverse the trend of the shrinking definition of modesty! Now, I must convince my wife of this!

    In trying to verify the tour-guides claims I've only been able to come up with only more 'claims' that this ankle fetish was at one time 'real'. Here's one:
    The challenge is what constitutes modesty constantly changes...
    a. At one time, it was immodest for a woman to expose her ankles
    b. Today, even the most modest of dress would have been considered
    scandalous    ​

    Thank God that women do not have these inclinations!
     
    #15 humblethinker, Aug 15, 2012
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    I'm glad your wife is happy to buy from the company. Like you, I'd rather support Christian businesses.

    The tongue-in-cheek responses are due to the "1611" part of the company's name because in 1611, those were NOT the women's styles. Also, the KJV has been revised since 1611--we actually couldn't recognize half the words in a true 1611 Bible.

    As one who sews, I prefer my modest clothing to be more stylish. The "box pleat" culottes offered by this company remind me of the kind IFBx wore in the 1980's and they are still as ugly now as they were back then.
     
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    In Israeli Kibbutz's, It is so hot that women an men are generally scantly clothe plus they barracks together (sharing all facilities). Never seen one hint of immodest sexest behavior (no hint of lewdness). If the mind is pure as Jesus commented......

    Personally it starts there. :smilewinkgrin:
     
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  18. humblethinker

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    I agree:thumbsup::thumbsup:
    How does the mind become pure? It seems inevitable that the mind becomes impure. It seems that the younger children are more naive and that naive minds are also, in a sense, easier to achieve or maintain purity. In contemplating the idea of a pure mind and how one gets spoiled, a thought that I have have is the role that 'shame' plays. For instance, upon finding my son in a situation I might approach him with an accusing and insinuating, "What are you doing!?". At which, being confused by my accusing and suspicious tone and in their attempt to understand my framing of the question, they then consider my insinuation that they must have been behaving or thinking immorally, whereas the actual situation arose from amoral events and pure motives. In such a scenario, I, the adult have sullied his mind by attributing shame to him when in actuality he was innocent. They, as a result, internalize the false shame and an offense has been perpetrated on them, but they are unable to see the reality and blame themselves. And in this I try to heed Jesus' warning to not offend little ones.

    How does an informed person achieve a pure mind? Is it a tension to be managed or a problem to be solved?
     
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  19. DiamondLady

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    All right gentlemen. Slim line refers to the STYLE of the skirt, not that it's tight fitting but rather that it's a straight skirt. A-Line is another STYLE, the skirt, when held out, resembles a capital A. The word "fitted" refers to the idea that it is made to fit a specific person's measurements.

    These skirts are considered quite modest, in length and fit.
     
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    I did expect to see clothing from that era at the link, rather than just regular clothes.

    It's nice they have the business. Good for them!

    Though I'm really tempted to get a screen printed t-shirt now with a honey-do list on it and wear it to church. It should have an explanation on it though, like say "male repellant shirt" above the list. LOL I'm really, really, REALLY tempted to do so now that you brought it up. Hrm.
     
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