It's not really relevant, because I only said primarily teachers. The scriptures are certainly applicable to any man who labors in building the church. But in the picture the church is the building, not the builders.
1 Corinthians 3:5-13
5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.
8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labor.
9 For we are laborers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.
10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
Verse 8, he that planteth and he that watereth refers back to verse 6. Who planted? Paul. Who watered? Apollos. Then he changes from an agrarian metaphor to constructing a building, but it is the same thing. The church is God's husbandry, God's building. Those who plant and water are those who build on the foundation. Every man refers to every man who builds, every man who plants and waters. While this does apply to everyone who labors in the church, it is primarily talking about those in ministry. But the teaching is the same, regardless of who you apply it to.
Excellent James! Your brief comments before about the passage had me misunderstanding your view. Maybe my mistake. Thank you for elaborating on it.
Yes, the reason given in the passage is that they are not keeping his commandments. I'll try to make it plain.
Matthew 7:21-27
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
- He that doesn't do the will of the Father will not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
- Christ calls them 'ye that work iniquity'. Looking back, we can infer that they did not do the will of the father, or they would enter into the kingdom, correct? The question seems to be 'what is the will of the father'.
24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not; for it was founded upon a rock.
- The will of the Father is that you hear the words of the Son and do them. Whoever does so is likened to this wise man.
26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
- The worker of iniquity that is likened unto this foolish man is the man that hears the words of the Son, but doesn't do them.
Thank you.
Ok, your view says the criers were rejected because they did not do the will of the Father. I agree in part.
Secondly you said that the "knowing" part is about knowing them for their commandment keeping. (Jump says knowing them for their works, same thing I suppose) .
How about the "never" part? What you are suggesting about the "knowing" part would then mean the criers "never" kept even one commandment of God. Yet, if they are saved, they surely did keep at least one commandment which is believe on the Son. What is your view on Jesus' word "never" ?
God Bless! :thumbs: