Does God Save Children Apart From their Faith In Jesus?

What IF the Lord though decided to"regenerate" those who are among the persons unable to place faith in Jesus?

Are we limiting God and saying that He cannot decide to do such a thing?

 

I do not totally disagree but I would like to ask.

AS a fetus could he have responded in a negative manner? Did he respond in faith or did he respond because of faith?

Was he born of the spirit before he was born of the flesh?

1 Cor.15:46.

 

Not if David's infant went to heaven. You limit God.
You call yourself a Calvinist and yet reject the very Scripture you so often use:

Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, (Romans 9:18)
--Does he have mercy or doesn't he? You are the Calvinist! Answer the question!

He doesn't. He can't.

Stop acting like you are "spiritually discerned." An infant cannot exercise faith. This is common sense.

None.

Both are wrong.
It was a sign from God. Look Aaron, I know you have never been pregnant and have never had the experience to carry that unborn child such as Elizabeth did and millions of other mothers are, and so perhaps you don't know what you are talking about, or are speaking out of total ignorance. Yes, I am free to say that. You are not a mother. I do have a wife, and we have had four children.
The phrase "leapt for joy" could have simply meant a good hard kick, as many mothers have experienced, including my wife. No mother would take that as leaping for sadness, or kicking for that reason. They do that when they are active, happy babies. Thus the phrase "leapt for joy." The fact of the timing was what made it unusual. It happened the instant that Mary came. The fact that it occurred is not unusual. It happens all the time. It is a physical, natural occurrence that any mother can attest to. There was no faith involved. Your theory is absurd.

 

THink that IF we take into consideration the view of David and his infant son , and jesus regarding children having their Guardian Angels before God, have to say that there is "proof" that God has indeed made a provision to be able to save those who cannot meet the faith requirement!

 

OK a 2 week old dies before being regenerated.....then what?

 

Your choice, but I would like to hear the question answered. you can do that privately if you prefer.

 

Your entire answer is "non sequitor."
It is off track and has nothing to do with the absurd notion that an unborn fetus (or infant) can have faith. If you want to get technical, since most believe that life begins at conception, when the sperm fertilizes the egg, then when mitosis starts occurring how does that fertilized egg think or have faith? When it is four cells, eight cells, sixteen cells large? At sixteen cells large then does it have faith to believe. It is still an "unborn infant" at that stage of conception? Who are you to say when "it has faith"? Your entire concept that an unborn 'infant' has faith is totally absurd.

To answer your non sequitor response above.
The Scripture says this:
And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; (Ephesians 2:1)
--You would have us believe that the Ephesians were all dead "corpses" who suddenly came alive, were resurrected by the Holy Spirit!!! Surely you jest! You don't know what the word "dead" means, do you? With the flawed definition of "dead" you continue in a flawed theology.
The Ephesian believers were dead because they were separated from God. Their sin; their spiritual condition had separated them from God. Only the Holy Spirit could bridge the gap, and reconcile them to Christ. They were separated (dead). To be made alive they needed the quickening power of the Holy Spirit.

If I am dead in sin, then sin has separated me from God. It does not mean I am lifeless or a corpse as your false theology would teach.
An infant is alive. He is not separated from God. He is not dead. He has not sinned (especially in the womb). There is nothing to separate him from God. As David fell upon the mercy of God, so does a grieving parent who loses a small child or even a miscarriage. That demonstrates both the justice of God and the mercy of God.

Again, you show a lack of knowledge of the definition of "death."
James speaks of physical death (the cemetery)

For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. (James 2:26)
--When the spirit is separated from the body that is when death occurs. Death is separation. We are concerned with the spirit of man at that time, not the body.

Your point is moot; meaningless.

My faith is based on an intelligent response to the gospel; if yours isn't then perhaps you are not saved. The Bible says that the gospel is the power of God unto salvation, not superstition and mysticism.

In Calvinism, there is no hope. You have demonstrated that. Infants cannot have faith. You cling to the impossible and then in blind faith say it is true. You may as well be asserting that the moon is made of blue cheese. It is blind faith with no evidence.

 

Aren't you the one that teaches you have your own faith, that it is not a gift? If so, then that unborn baby has faith at some point.

We have it correct in knowing the Scriptures teach that God gives us faith to be saved.

Calling ones salvation into question is uncalled for and is against the BB rules. How you contiinue to do these things and call out others for very minor things is beyond me.

Telling one his theological view is hopeless is also uncalled for, and just being contentious.

 

Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God.
At what point does a conglomeration of eight cells as it continues to grow and develop inside the womb of a mother hear and understand the word of God in order to have the faith to believe in it?

Are you? Who says? Scripture please.

I will call the salvation of an infant into question any day I want. The infant will go to heaven not because "of its faith." That is ludicrous.

The one calling the other contentious is contentious indeed.

But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God. (1 Corinthians 11:16)

 

You were addressing this to Aaron, not an infant.

Any person can see this.

Not cool.

 

I believe that the soul and the spirit develop together.
Other synonyms that the Bible uses for the spirit are the mind and the heart. The fruit of the spirit is comes from the heart, for example. But the fruit of the spirit cannot be exercised without intelligence, without an active and deliberate choice of the mind: love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance, kindness.
--Notice faith is mentioned here as a fruit. One cannot exercise faith without the mind. Love is a self-sacrificing of oneself. An infant cannot do that. He is entirely selfish.

What did Jesus say:
For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: (Matthew 15:19)
--He is speaking of the spirit.