Donald Trump Is Using False Statistics to Make a Racist Point

[Zaac]

Donald Trump Is Using False Statistics to Make a Racist Point

He tweeted a photo with completely made-up statistics about black crime.
At this point, it should come as no surprise when Donald Trump manipulates the truth to his political advantage. However, presenting false racially-biased statistics a day after an African-American protester was thrown out of one of his events, doesn’t send the best message.

Earlier on Sunday afternoon, Trump did his weird version of a manual retweet of an image depicting a man (in this context, assumed to be black), with a bandana over his face pointing a gun sideways towards a list of wholly fabricated statistics.

The image alleges that 97 percent of African-Americans were killed by African Americans, while only 1 percent of murdered African-Americans were killed by police. These two statistics are demarcated from the rest in blue and red ink respectively. It also claims 81 percent of whites who are killed are killed by blacks, which is pure race-baiting at its most ignorant. The numbers in this erroneous image are attributed to the “Crime Statistics Bureau - San Francisco,” and reflect 2015 data.

For one thing, a “Crime Statistics Bureau” does not exist. The FBI is responsible for this data and they have yet to release a report on 2015, because, well 2015 is not over yet.

Secondly, whoever made that image did so with the intent of lying about the percentage of white Americans killed by black Americans. In 2014, that number was 14 percent, not 81 percent.

Additionally, in the graphic, only 16 percent of whites are killed by other whites. In the same FBI report, it clearly states that 82.3 percent of whites are in fact killed by other whites, which is very similar to the number of blacks killed by blacks (89.9 percent).

Finally, when the Daily Beast reverse google image searched the picture, the only yielded results were attributed to YouTube videos in Arabic, which featured a duplicated image of the man in the picture Trump shared.

This explicit truth-bending is only compounded by the fact that a Black Lives Matter protester named Mercutio Southall Jr. was kicked out of a Trump rally in Alabama on Saturday.

“Get him the hell out of here, will you please?” Trump requested at the rally. “Get him out of here. Throw him out!”

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...-false-statistics-to-make-a-racist-point.html

Racially prejudiced? YES.
Racist?No.

He's a sad man who has figured out from listening to conservative talk radio that the formula for winning the political right is to say what they are too timid to say. but as he and talk show hosts become less timid, so will their audiences.

Ain't it good to be on the political right?

Liar on the left. Liar on the right. But the political right will find a way to convince themselves to vote for more unGodliness because it's the lesser of two evils. and then they will go and sit in their churches and call into their talk shows about taking "America back" or how the morals of the country have gone to Hades, never willing to admit to themselves that their voting for evil, helped get it there.

 

[Kevin]

I notice you don't offer a solution in your post. What would you suggest conservatives do?

 

[righteousdude2]

Racially prejudiced? YES.
Racist?No.

He's a sad man who has figured out from listening to conservative talk radio that the formula for winning the political right is to say what they are too timid to say. but as he and talk show hosts become less timid, so will their audiences.

Ain't it good to be on the political right?

Liar on the left. Liar on the right. But the political right will find a way to convince themselves to vote for more unGodliness because it's the lesser of two evils. and then they will go and sit in their churches and call into their talk shows about taking "America back" or how the morals of the country have gone to Hades, never willing to admit to themselves that their voting for evil, helped get it there.

Does this mean you're not voting for Trump?

 

[Crabtownboy]

I notice you don't offer a solution in your post. What would you suggest conservatives do?

Start telling the truth is what conservatives should start doing.

Trump is simply playing to his audience.

 

[Rolfe]

Start telling the truth...

Ironic that you would write this after your thread suggesting that those who are to the political right and who assert their Second Amendment Right approve of mass shootings.

Link: 16 hospitalized in New Orleans playground shooting

 

[church mouse guy]

Racially prejudiced? YES.
Racist?No.

He's a sad man who has figured out from listening to conservative talk radio that the formula for winning the political right is to say what they are too timid to say. but as he and talk show hosts become less timid, so will their audiences.

Ain't it good to be on the political right?

Liar on the left. Liar on the right. But the political right will find a way to convince themselves to vote for more unGodliness because it's the lesser of two evils. and then they will go and sit in their churches and call into their talk shows about taking "America back" or how the morals of the country have gone to Hades, never willing to admit to themselves that their voting for evil, helped get it there.

It looks as if Hillary will have her hands full defeating Trump, who looks more and more as if he will be the GOP nominee, much to the chagrin of the country clubs and the US Chamber of Commerce, the Business Round Table and the National Association of Manufacturers.

 

[Zaac]

I notice you don't offer a solution in your post. What would you suggest conservatives do?

Is it REALLY that complicated? If people think supporting a candidate who shows nothing of a love of Christ with his actions is what you want leading the free world, then by all means vote for that person. But it really ultimately shows that a large volume of folks who say they are followers of Christ haven't got a clue if they think the tide will be turned by voting for any measure of evil. But like I said, a lot of folks voted for the Mormon who without a doubt rejects Christ. So I don't think anyone really expects to many of those "followers" to think Christ FIRST as opposed to political party.

Are you a political conservative first or a conservative follower of Christ first?

 

[Zaac]

Biggrin

It looks as if Hillary will have her hands full defeating Trump, who looks more and more as if he will be the GOP nominee, much to the chagrin of the country clubs and the US Chamber of Commerce, the Business Round Table and the National Association of Manufacturers.

It'll be a landslide victory for her just like it was for Obama's second term. Every registered Democrat , alive and dead, will find a way to vote if it means keeping the country out of the control of that man.

 

[Zaac]

It really is sad that as much as political conservatives have talked about President Obama being divisive, you never hear them say the same about Donald Trump, who has basically alienated himself and what he represents from Hispanics, Blacks, lesbians/gays, women, immigrants and refugees.

Yeah, and folks were really supposed to believe that political "conservatives" REALLY gave a hoot about division.Rolleyes

 

[church mouse guy]

It really is sad that as much as political conservatives have talked about President Obama being divisive, you never hear them say the same about Donald Trump, who has basically alienated himself and what he represents from Hispanics, Blacks, lesbians/gays, women, immigrants and refugees.

Yeah, and folks were really supposed to believe that political "conservatives" REALLY gave a hoot about division.Rolleyes

I don't think that conservative Republicans are predominantly for Trump. As everyone knows, the GOP is fractured and the party machinery wants someone like Rubio. However, Trump has populist appeal and it is the rank and file added an across the board sampling that makes up Trump's voters.

Blacks are overwhelming for Hillary but white men dislike her 3 to 1 and white women are moving away from her also. Gays are always Democrat voters, as are Jews. Although some immigrants want papa government and high taxes and have that idea reinforced by the Catholic Church, also an authoritarian brand of Christianity that prefers socialism, others are refugees from failed socialistic states who know first hand the repression that goes with a welfare state.

Hillary is not a good campaigner and she has taken money from Trump but she can count on the gates of Hell being for her.

 

[Alcott]

If you're going to convince anyone those statistics (as you call them) are false, tw, you're going to have to post the 'true' ones. If you don't have them, the obvious Q is How do you know those are false?

 

[Use of Time]

Here ya go.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/bill-o-reilly-trump-incorrect-retweet

 

[Zaac]

If you're going to convince anyone those statistics (as you call them) are false, tw, you're going to have to post the 'true' ones. If you don't have them, the obvious Q is How do you know those are false?

Because I know how to find the REAL ones on the FBI site. Don't be under the impression that I was trying to convince anyone of anything. I'm well aware that some of you don't care what a candidate does as long as he's in "your party".

 

[Rob_BW]

Because I know how to find the REAL ones on the FBI site. Don't be under the impression that I was trying to convince anyone of anything. I'm well aware that some of you don't care what a candidate does as long as he's in "your party".

Uh, no. There are no 2015 stats listed on the FBI UCR.

Which of course makes one wonder where Trump got his stats for 2015.

 

[Use of Time]

If anybody even bothered to watch the O'Reilly interview with Trump it is a perfect example of the kind of leadership we are going to end up with. O'Reilly of all people takes him to task for grabbing the meme of a radio website and Trump says he can't be bothered to fact check all this stuff. O'Reilly told him "Donald, you are a Presidential candidate you have to fact check this kind of stuff. They both acknowledge that the numbers aren't correct.

Just wait until he has to make real decisions.

 

[InTheLight]

Just wait until he has to make real decisions.

Whatever decision he makes will be a good one. Just ask him.

 

[church mouse guy]

And don't say that Trump is the conservative candidate when he is the populist candidate. Where Trump wins big is on his idea to close the borders. Closing the borders deals with both domestic economic and social issues and military security issues on the foreign policy front.

The GOP is fractured but the Democrats do not have a likeable candidate.

 

[Use of Time]

Trump's outline of his plan to take on ISIS was almost literally exactly what we are doing now to fight ISIS. Trump foreign policy should terrify the entire world. Especially us.

 

[Zaac]

Uh, no. There are no 2015 stats listed on the FBI UCR.

I wasn't talking about 2015 stats. I was talking about previous stats that have been brought up to Trump and others on the right time and time again when they try to make it seem as though black on black crime is so much higher than white on white crime.

Which of course makes one wonder where Trump got his stats for 2015

According to some, this is info made up by some neo-Nazi site and Trump has been quoting it. According to the story, a San Francisco bureau doesn't even exist. Bu the man obviously doesn't care. If it helps him make his point, he won't back down from using lies.

 

[Zaac]

Whatever decision he makes will be a good one. Just ask him.

His solution for the really big issues seems to be "i'm gonna put really good management in place and we're gonna manage it extremely well".

I'm wondering if he knows that people can hear him when he says stupid stuff, which he then tries to say a different way to make it sound intelligent. It sounds like he's writing a fifth grade term paper where someone has just taught him how to write basic sentences and put them together to make a paragraph. i.e. "I like chocolate because it's sweet. Chocolate is really sweet so i like it a lot. And because I like it a lot, it has to be really sweet".

On to 2nd paragraph.Rolleyes