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Doxology (and Gloria P while we're at it)

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by Haruo, Jun 14, 2003.

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  1. Haruo

    Haruo New Member

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    When I was a kid, at University Baptist and later at Rose Hill Presbyterian, we sang "Praise God, from whom all blessings flow", to Old 100th, every Sunday upon presentation of the offering. In the English service at Japanese Baptist we still do this. But at Fremont Community (née Baptist) and in the Japanese service at JBC the song sung at this time changes every few months. Occasionally at Fremont it has been the traditional words set to Jimmy Owens' "Fairhill" tune.

    Last Sunday my fiancée and I attended a couple of other churches in the evening instead of our usual evening at Fremont, and I found two of the congregations using new texts to Old 100th. I'm interested to know what other churches' practice is in this regard. Do you have a fixed post-offertory doxology? (Shades of liturgicalism! :eek: ) What text or texts, to what tune or tunes, do you sing at that point in the service?

    And while we're at it, do any of you sing the Gloria Patri (no, not in Latin! I mean the text "Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Ghost / As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be / World without end! Amen! Amen!" or a variant thereof) and if so do you do it every week? To what tune? At what point in the service? (At University Baptist I was raised singing it every week to Meineke, and the first time I heard it sung to Greatorex I thought it sounded so "wrong"!)

    Haruo
     
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  2. Charlesga

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    We do not sing either the Doxology or the Gloria Patri at our church. However, there are a couple of Baptist churches in our city that do. I actually like to visit churches that have a more liturgical style once in a while, and would not have objections to singing either of these.

    Charles

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  3. Haruo

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    Thanks, Charles. But that's only half my question; the other half was, what if anything *do* you sing at your church as a congregational response at the presentation of the offering? As I mentioned, both at Fremont and at the JBC Japanese service this is not (or at least not usually) the traditional Thomas Ken/Old 100th doxology; at Fremont we have sung the Ken text to "Lasst uns erfreuen" and "Fairhill", we have sung "We give thee but thine own", and we have sung "Freely, freely"; at JBC the text is apparently not based on an English one (and the tune is not Old 100th).

    Haruo
     
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  4. Charlesga

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    Sorry, Haruo, for not answering the entire question. We do not sing anything during the presentation of the offering. In fact, our ushers take the offering out the back doors after collection...they do not bring it back down to the front to "present" it. Usually during the offering we either have a soloist or the choir sings.

    Charles
     
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    During the offering, we usually play a modern praise melody, (our congegation stands during the offering), and after the offering, we usually sing the praise chorus.

    We are more in the line of "Brooklyn Tabernacle Choir," "Christchurch Choir," and "Mike Speck"--no "high church" stuff here--heck our choir (all 110 of them) don't wear robes.
     
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  6. Pete

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    No set musical benediction at current Church. I have attended Churches where benedictions have been: "Praise God, from whom all blessings flow" (to Old 100th), chorus of "Turn Your Eyes Upon Jesus", Jude's benediction "Now Unto Him", and Gloria Patri. Cyberhymnal.org gives the tune "Greatorex" for Gloria Patri, that's a new one on me [​IMG] I do not know the name of the other tune for that one.

    Never heard a set song for offerings in any Church, most of the time just whatever musos (be it organist or band) come up with for the day.

    I am trying to forget some Churches I have seen where a 15 minute mini-sermon on giving precedes every offering... :eek:

    Pete
     
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  7. Charlesga

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    I'm with you on that! Nothing like a good guilt trip to enhance your Sunday morning worship experience.
     
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  8. Dr. Bob

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    Our church in Texas did not "collect" an offering so there was nothing to sing at which. (We had a lock box by the sound board and folks dropped in their gifts there.

    We didn't have hymnals either, so sang all with overhead/slide.

    Then went to FBC Dallas where they did have offering and hymnals (and NEVER p/w songs in a worship service). No hymn, no response, rarely a layman would give a little p.r. before the offering (Tom Landry, Mary Kay, Zig Ziglar).

    But as big and formal as the church was, can't ever remember Gloria Patria or Praise God from Whom. We DID, however, always kneel and sing that Buddhist favorite "Let us Break Bread Together on our Knees" every month at communion. Odd Baptist church to have kneelers built in. :rolleyes:
     
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  9. Pete

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    I'm with you on that! Nothing like a good guilt trip to enhance your Sunday morning worship experience.</font>[/QUOTE]G'day Charlesga [​IMG] I never really took a guilt trip on it, I am a cheerful giver [​IMG] It was just it made it seem like they were there to worship "the almighty dollar" instead of The Almighty God :( Oh well, praise God current Church is saner [​IMG]

    Pete
     
    #9 Pete, Jun 16, 2003
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