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This "story" has been blown out of perspective by the sensationalist media. The fact is that THREE, not forty six, players are guilty of this crime. Why in the world the entire team is being punished for the acts of a handful of students is beyond me.

All schools have good students and bad students. This is true about Christian schools, secular schools, and professing Christian schools like Duke. The school itself should not be judged by this event. However I do agree with one local resident, "I really think there is a problem with culture at Duke -- the partying culture,".

More importantly the entire team should not be punished for this event. There are many people who owe members of this team an apology. The media should be ashamed of how they have tared and feathered the whole team.

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Martin.

 

Sounds like the words of a true fan.

Joseph Botwinick

 

From all reports, only a few actually committed the assault.

If there had been any men on the team, they would have stepped in and stopped it, instead of watching/applauding.

Duke should be wondering why the "culture" didn't include individual responsibility.

 

Agreed Galatian. Also, if there had been any men on the team, there would not have been any codes of silence and we would have known 3 weeks ago who did what.

Joseph Botwinick

 

Not trying to do something to stop whatever actually happened and then playing the quiet game afterwards are the marks of true cowards!

 

This, of course, assumes that an assault occurred at all...

 

Tragic,

Turns out you were right on this one. DNA apparently disproves the woman's story.

Joseph Botwinick

 

Actually, it looks like none of them were guilty of this crime. The DNA evidence is apparently going against the woman's story.

Joseph Botwinick

 

Guilty? You mean I missed the trial?

 

No DNA match

Joseph Botwinick

 

The more I hear about it, the less I'm inclined to believe it.

 

Yes, there is something wrong with their social behavior because they are hiring a stripper. But no, this isn't something Duke needs to address since they were engaged in legal behavior that was not against the rules of this secular college.

Joseph Botwinick

 

You mean it's okay for college students to hire a stripper and have her "perform" on campus???

I think most men don't realize how many times women are touched,held, or fondled against their will. I can tell you right now it's happened to me a number of times, starting around age 5. I recall vividly at age 12 or so being kissed violently in a sexual way by an elderly 2nd cousin. All I did was, at my mother's insistence, go out to the car where he was sitting to say 'hello' (he used a wheelchair and had decided to stay in the car while his wife visited). He was over 70 and asked me to give him a hug or kiss -- can't recall which. This was a normal thing and I thought nothing of it. As I bent down to to do this, he grabbed me and kissed me in a way I can't say here. I was pretty shaken up.

I can't even count the times things were said to me in offices where I worked, and the times I was touched with too much familiarity. At a Methodist place once, a preacher literally chased me around a desk. I'm not kidding. All of this was without inviting it or dressing provocatively!

I am wondering if other women reading this thread had these experiences, but I know a lot of my women friends have.

 

There was a time when I seriously wanted a TASER. To this day, when I see a group of young guys, I'll cross the street to avoid them.

One of the advantages of being of a "certain" age isn't the respect but the simple disinterest one gets.