"easily deceived"

How about a verse that says women are easily decieved, not one specific woman, but women in general, all women. I'd like to be able to see what the bible says.

 

I would think what God said to Eve after eating of the fruit was not only intended for her, but all women. Same with Adam and all men.

 

While deception can be from a lack of intelligence, I think emotion, relationships and trust play into the eqation moreso. Take the atronaught who was recently arrested for conspiracy to commit murder. I'm pretty sure she is an intelligent human being, but let emotion and the relationship "deceive" her.

 

I am speaking in generality but I have noticed.

Women tend to think with their feelings. That is not nessesaraly a bad thing.

Men tend to think with logic and work out problems without feelings involved. They may come to a conclusion that does not jive with feelings.

It is not nessesaraly a bad thing to think with your feelings but I think our feelings are more easy to deceive. The up side to this is that women tend to be more loving and considerate.

There are exceptions, but it is what I notice to be a general trend.

 

Maybe God meant for men and women to compliment each other? Kinda like peanut butter and jelly. :laugh:

 

I think your right.

 

1 Tim 2: 13For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 15Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

It says Eve was decieved, not women in general. You'll have to do better then that to prove women are easily decieved.

 

Trust and verify will keep one out of a lot of trouble.

 

I don't think women are any more easily deceived than I am. A person who prizes integrity as highly as I do tends to trust what other people say. I've been wronged, lied to and deceived too many times to count, and yet I continue to believe what people say. Why? Because I am honest and know that what I say is the truth. I don't believe in lying to people. I don't believe in deceiving people. I don't believe in pretending to be what I'm not. Yet, many people see nothing wrong with any of that. Still, I expect people to be honest and get fooled nearly every time. I don't remember who it was that was looking for an honest man. Well, I'm nearly 61 and found very few honest people.

 

Helen, with all respect, whether you, me, or anyone else can be "'easily deceived'" is one question.

But where does the Bible ever say that about women, in particular? I just looked through the "Bible Gateway" search and found the phrase exactly one time in some ten versions, and that in Hosea 7:11 in the NIV referring to "Ephraim".
It is true the Scripture says something to the effect that 'the woman was deceived in the transgression' (didn't look up the exact words), but I think that 'strengthening' those words to 'easily deceived' is less than warranted, at least by Scripture, your husband notwithstanding. (My wife might suggest that I am 'easily deceived' more than she, and probably be correct, in that.) So, I'd suggest that just as many men as women are often 'easily deceived'.

Ed

 

I think being easily decieved has nothing to do with ones sex, but rather with personality.

 

so theres no direct scripture? not surprised.

 

In looking at scripture about being decieved, I found everyone can and will be decieved, even men, even christian men. This list does not include verese specifically about Israel.
Mt 24: 5 For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many.
v.11 Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many
v. 24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect
Mk 13: 6 For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am He,’ and will deceive many
v. 22 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect
Ro 16: 18 For those who are such do not serve our Lord £Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple.
1 Cor 3: 18 Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you seems to be wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise
Eph. 5: 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.
Col 2: 4 Now this I say lest anyone should deceive you with persuasive words
2 Thes 2: 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of £sin is revealed, the son of perdition
1 Jn 1: 8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us
2: 26 These things I have written to you concerning those who try to deceive you.
3: 7 Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous.
1Cor 6: 9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived.
15:33 Do not be deceived: "Evil company corrupts good habits."
2Ti 3: 13 But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.
Ti 3:3 For we ourselves were also once foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving various lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful and hating one another.
Ja 1: 16 Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren

 

Helen,

I believe it is a "right brain - left brain" thing. In fact, if Eve hadn't come along, Adam would not have cared for himself as he should have IMO. She knew what love was -- Adam knew what goals and purposes were.

Men can compartmentalize -- women generalize. I like Paul's admonition on this account -- "women ask your husbands" A woman will see something as good but a man are more analytical, don't you think?

Plus, as to the case at hand, I don't think Adam communicated effectively with Eve the message about the fruit that God had given him alone.

skypair

 

We all know that Satan is a wise and cunning adversary. I mean he WAS the covering cherub after all. He was created with a much greater intelligence than we were.

Knowing this then I would have to wonder why it was he chose a woman rather than a man to decieve if women are not more readily decieved than men.

All women get their propensities from Eve just as all men get theirs from Adam. God created us that way. We are to compliment what is lacking in the other. Men are more logical than women while women are more intuitive than men. Hence we need each other.

Scripture shows that the woman was decieved but the man chose to transgress. While there will be various degrees of this principle among individuals, I think the principle is valid. Women can be deceived more easily than men. They lead with there heart while we lead with our mind.

They get deceived by overly trusting and we make stupid decisions.

 

with me and my husband it is completely the opposite.

 

Why that connection? And how does that tie in with the verse that follows?

That Paul is a making a two-part argument against women teaching in church is clear. You read it as
reason 1: man was created first
reason 2: Eve was deceived and Adam wasn't, thus women, in general, are more easily deceived.

However, it seems that a better view of the verse might be more along these lines:
reason 2: Eve was deceived and Adam wasn't, thus women labor under the curse in their own unique way (ie. and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee).

Now, consider vs. 15 and see if maybe that verse makes more sense in light of Paul speaking of the curse being the second reason as opposed to Paul speaking of women's tendency to being deceived.