Easter

The Waldensians are a serious contender for the title of most controversial group in church history. Proceed with caution.
Never read anything about them disputing Easter.

 

Waldensians aren't the only ones who don't celebrate Easter. It's origins are pagan. But then so are a lot of Christmas rituals.

 

The names of the days of the week are pagan too, but it doesn't stop you from having a calendar, and using their pagan names.

 

Walls, I am concerned about you. You say that you make up your own calendar, starting with April, etc... Why? Why avoid holidays? Why be so very concerned about this silliness? The Bible says:

God is NOT concerned about calendars, Valentine's Day, etc. but with our heart!
Diane

 

Where did God declare April the first month?
So that mean when you make a doctors appointment if they say the date, day, or whatever you don't go by it? You never actually know what month or day it is then. How about tax day, if you used a homemade calendar, hjow can you possibely keep up.

 

Well put Katie! I've never heard such a thing!

Walls, please reread the scripture I gave.

 

Also, Walls. You choose to follow some laws but there is a scripture that says if you return to the law, you must follow all the laws. I honestly cannot remember where it is or how it's worded and supper is about ready so I'll have to search for it later. However, Dr. Bob pointed out on another thread that there are at least 450 commandments from God.

James 2:10 says 'For whosever shall keep the whole law and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

Diane

 

"The names of the days of the week are pagan too, but it doesn't stop you from having a calendar, and using their pagan names."

My post in no way states my personal observations or beliefs on the topic of this thread. Any statement about what I do or what I believe made by anyone other than myself, should be read as pure conjecture and opinion which is not based on fact or personal knowledge.

What I posted: "Waldensians aren't the only ones who don't celebrate Easter. It's origins are pagan. But then so are a lot of Christmas rituals." Can be easily varified as factual.

Here are a few web-sites that support the truth of my previous post:

Religious Tolorance web-site.

Yahweh web-site

NYC. Religion.com


I found this on the web while doing a search on the Waldensians. Perhaps the Waldensians do not celebrate Easter for this reason and not the other that was suggested previously?

Georgetown Prep Web-site

 

Hello Walls
Ref.Calender
I take a little interest in the calender.In Gen 8:4 is an early ref to a calender. I think the Ides of Mar. refer to a calender. The day of atonement is a ref. to a calender. The month of Abib will be a first.I think your stand on the calender is interesting I would hope that a few would research this and add gain some wisdom.

 

Holidays have many pagan beliefs intertwined with Christian occurances. This, I would go so far as to say, is a way for the heathen to distract from the Christian truth. Easter was not celebrated by the Waldensians, as by many Baptists also. The pagan is strong in its influence with those things, especially the pagan holidays that occured around the same time. One can argue which came first, the pagan or the Christian. I think they interchanged, such as Christmas.

Many of the pagan celebrations didn't enter this country, as Walls has stated, around the time of the Civil War. The date is always on a Sunday, after the Jewish date of Nisan 14, which occurs on the first full moon of the Jewish first month. This is the date that the Jews celebrate the extended sabbath, or the passover (as Wisdom has stated), which would coincide with the crucifiction of Christ.

As for the Waldensians being a group to shy away from, I would not do such thing because they play a large part in Baptist history. We may learn more good than harm from some of their teachings.

 

diane,

I don't see a problem with Walls heart, nor do I see him overlooking this. I think he wants to please the Lord in the things he does, and by shunning those things that are pagan is one way of becoming more Godly in his walk. You will find this way in 2 Tim 2:15-16 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
He is obviously doing his studying and taking stands to become closer to God. Why should his choices to avoid pagan customs bother you so much as to become legalistic in telling him that he can't do what he is doing? Why should he accept that God looks on the heart, then continue in those things that are not pleasing to the Lord? I don't understand this line of thought.

 

If you read the chapter prior to and following the verses you quoted, I believe the thought being put across hear is telling us not to be guilty of folling these things. Verses 8-13 explain how salvation and our outward testimony are for Christ. Verses 20-23 show that we must live in the world but not being a part of it. Verses 14-19 are given to tell us to Godly so as not to be judged or guilty of such. Or is that what you are saying? By highlighting verses 22-23, this is showing how mans' doctrines and the flesh are not to be a part of Christian living.

I think Walls should be commended for her desire to stay away from the ungodly things. The Jewish calendar starts in late March/early April. They live their calendar, but will acknowledge the pagan one, because so many follow it. But when it comes to their worship of God, they choose to follow their own calendar.

Easter has many pagan things tied into it. I celebrate the Resurrection, but have nothing to do with the pagan customs, the eggs, bunnies, hot cross buns, etc. That day should be a celebration of his resurrection and our children need to keep Christ at the forefront.

 

Walls

Can I ask what this means? Remnant? In context of this topic(or the callendar issue) what is this remnant?


I do not think Dr. Bob asking you which calendar is a personal question, I did not see you answer, did I miss something?
Even you yourself told me you didn't have the months all figured out becuse you couldn't figue out haw many days they had in a month. Any a calendar is made the maker needs to be sure of th days in each month or the calendar is flawed.