Elevation of women in the church and in society

[christianyouth]

Another news flash! She doesn't need your "blessing" to do anything.

I almost hope Hillary Clinton wins the election. Then maybe you who hate women so, will move to Saudi Arabia, where they treat women like you think they should be treated.

By saying this, you have just revealed two things, you are rebellious and you twist Scripture to suit your needs. I don't think Christianity is the right religion for you, given Paul's admonition for 'woman to be subject to their husbands' and 'women keep silent in the church' and even farther 'when a woman prophesies she should keep her head covered' ( a symbol of submission).

God has created the universe with order. He has made the family with order. The husband is the head, and for you to say that the wife does not need the husbands permission to get a job, just shows how culturally conditioned our Christianity has become.

Yes, OP, our country has been greatly hindered by the rise of femminist women. But as Dale said, it is because men stopped being men. So now, you have people like myself, being raised by a single mother. What does that do? It femminizes me. It is a viscious cycle..

 

[Amy.G]

1. I hear you, sister!

2. You have my respect.

That's better.
:laugh: :laugh:

 

[Scarlett O.]

Yes, OP, our country has been greatly hindered by the rise of femminist women. But as Dale said, it is because men stopped being men. So now, you have people like myself, being raised by a single mother. What does that do? It femminizes me. It is a viscious cycle. Someday, we will look back, as some historians have with the empire of Rome, and will see that the destruction of our society came with the destruction of the family, which came from the femminist movement.

Could you give some clarification as to what you mean by being raised by a single mother "feminizing you"?

 

[christianyouth]

Could you give some clarification as to what you mean by being raised by a single mother "feminizing you"?

Enstilling feminine qualities into my mind, while lacking the ability to show me the masculine frankness that is required to be a man of God.

 

[mcdirector]

Enstilling feminine qualities into my mind, while lacking the ability to show me the masculine frankness that is required to be a man of God.

Having a Godly man around helps, but God can make a man of you without a man around. You only need willingness and His Word for this just as any of us need willingness and His Word to find out what and who He'd have us be.

 

[mcdirector]

Your remark about making bisquits reminded me of a member of the BB who didn't think women should be posting because we were "teaching men". He told me I need to go home and bake some cookies! :laugh:
He was banned later that day.

Don't mess with the BB sisters!

Us Sisters are a POWERFUL force.

 

[npetreley]

Your remark about making bisquits reminded me of a member of the BB who didn't think women should be posting because we were "teaching men". He told me I need to go home and bake some cookies! :laugh:

I don't think "a woman's place" is to go home and bake cookies. However, if any men or women here want to bake some oatmeal raisin cookies, I will volunteer to, um, judge them - you know, taste test sort of thing. Yeah, that's the ticket.

 

[mcdirector]

And just how do we feed an Angry Beaver?

Toss those oatmeal cookies over the cage or shove them under the cage?

 

[Amy.G]

COOKIES!!!!

Now Bitsy, there's where the power is!

 

[mcdirector]

COOKIES!!!!

Now Bitsy, there's where the power is!

AMEN Sister

-- Now if we can just get feeding the cookies to those Hungry, Angry Beavers figured out . . .

 

[npetreley]

AMEN Sister

-- Now if we can just get feeding the cookies to those Hungry, Angry Beavers figured out . . .

Cookies hath power to sooth the savage beaver.

 

[Rufus_1611]

By saying this, you have just revealed two things, you are rebellious and you twist Scripture to suit your needs. I don't think Christianity is the right religion for you, given Paul's admonition for 'woman to be subject to their husbands' and 'women keep silent in the church' and even farther 'when a woman prophesies she should keep her head covered' ( a symbol of submission).

God has created the universe with order. He has made the family with order. The husband is the head, and for you to say that the wife does not need the husbands permission to get a job, just shows how culturally conditioned our Christianity has become.

Yes, OP, our country has been greatly hindered by the rise of femminist women. But as Dale said, it is because men stopped being men. So now, you have people like myself, being raised by a single mother. What does that do? It femminizes me. It is a viscious cycle..

There's a great deal of light in this post. Thank you ChristianYouth and keep up the fight.

The only thing that I would say is potentially erroneous about the OP is not within the OP but the thread title. Women have not been elevated during this age, they have been degraded. They have been conditioned to think that they need to become men and, with rare exceptions, they have given up their God gifted feminine beauty and feminine role.

 

[Scarlett O.]

There's a great deal of light in this post. Thank you ChristianYouth and keep up the fight.

The only thing that I would say is potentially erroneous about the OP is not within the OP but the thread title. Women have not been elevated during this age, they have been degraded. They have been conditioned to think that they need to become men and, with rare exceptions, they have given up their God gifted feminine beauty and feminine role.

:saint: I have been patiently waiting for 10 pages for you to show up, Rufus. You are, if nothing else, one of the most consistent persons on the BB. And I sincerely mean that as a compliment. No hidden agendas. I enjoy reading most of your posts whether I agree with you or not.

The last time that I asked you "what took you so long to get here" you laughed (a smiley) and said "old age".

I looked at you profile when you said that and if I am not mistaken, I have a good ten years on you and I was here on the first page! :laugh: :laugh:

Have a great day, Rufus! You are one of my favorites.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

By saying this, you have just revealed two things, you are rebellious and you twist Scripture to suit your needs. I don't think Christianity is the right religion for you, given Paul's admonition for 'woman to be subject to their husbands' and 'women keep silent in the church' and even farther 'when a woman prophesies she should keep her head covered' ( a symbol of submission).

I like this - an 18 year old (according to profile) calling an adult rebellious! Now that I would take seriously.

 

[npetreley]

Here's a random thought. Check out this one line from the proverbs 31 description of a woman of noble character...

16 She considereth a field, and buyeth it

I don't see anything in there about how she consulted her husband on the matter and deferred the decision to him. Assuming the wife is a Godly woman, perhaps a measure of a Godly husband would be to see what kind of reaction he has when his wife comes home and says, "honey, I bought some land today..."

 

[Rufus_1611]

:saint: I have been patiently waiting for 10 pages for you to show up, Rufus. You are, if nothing else, one of the most consistent persons on the BB. And I sincerely mean that as a compliment. No hidden agendas. I enjoy reading most of your posts whether I agree with you or not.

The last time that I asked you "what took you so long to get here" you laughed (a smiley) and said "old age".

I looked at you profile when you said that and if I am not mistaken, I have a good ten years on you and I was here on the first page! :laugh: :laugh:

Have a great day, Rufus! You are one of my favorites.

Thank you Scarlett, you're very kind and I'm glad to see you're back to regularly contributing.

 

[Rufus_1611]

I like this - an 18 year old (according to profile) calling an adult rebellious! Now that I would take seriously.

Most adults in this age are rebellious (especially the women).

"And said unto him, Hearest thou what these say? And Jesus saith unto them, Yea; have ye never read, Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings thou hast perfected praise?" - Matthew 21:16​

 

[JustChristian]

Actually, that is not true.

I have a family of four, married with no completed college education and no union Job (which I would never want personally). I make about $21,000 a year and I alone bring the income.

We own (paid for) three cars (selling one), pay rent of 400 a month, bills, groceries, clothing,tithe and give... and still have money we set aside for vacation, and buying a house, enterment fund for the month (includes pop, candy, videos or movies, and eating out) when that money is gone, there is not pulling from something else.

The problem is that people in America spend their monies frivolously on things. They don't know how to control their spending nor what is good to actually spend their money on - needs, and save for their wants. We are a society of lust and we indulge from drinks (pops or whatever), snacks, movies, dinners, ect... rather than save to do those things that are NOT NEEDS we spend as though they ARE and then complain we can't make it unless some else in the family takes up a job.

Funny thing is, THEN with a second job they realize they are not making it so good either now with more money coming in. (because they are now spending more on their larger more expensive lusts/desires rather than needs)

Fact is, if we would realize the difference between needs and wants, and spend accordingly much of our problems with money decress extesively.

I think I said this might be possible in rural American. "Now almost nobody can afford to do that except in rural areas maybe." Do you live in Harlan, Ky or another such out of the way place? You won't find a place to rent for a family of 4 for $400 a month in NYC, Atlanta or Chicago.

 

[Rufus_1611]

Here's a random thought. Check out this one line from the proverbs 31 description of a woman of noble character...



I don't see anything in there about how she consulted her husband on the matter and deferred the decision to him. Assuming the wife is a Godly woman, perhaps a measure of a Godly husband would be to see what kind of reaction he has when his wife comes home and says, "honey, I bought some land today..."

Notice a few verses before...

"The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil." - Proverbs 31:11​

Since her husband trusted her, I'm going to speculate that he delegated such matters to her care so it may not have been necessary for her to consult. However, if the husband had not delegated such matters or given instructions to her to consult with him, since she was a Proverbs 31 lady, I speculate she would've.

Here are some other lines to consider....

"And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him." - Genesis 2:18

"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord." - Ephesians 5:22​

SUBMIT'', v.i. To surrender; to yield one''s person to the power of another; to give up resistance. ... (Source: Webster's 1828)​

 

[Analgesic]

Enstilling feminine qualities into my mind, while lacking the ability to show me the masculine frankness that is required to be a man of God.

Women can't be frank? My mother sure never had that problem.