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ESV Deluxe Edition update

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by go2church, Apr 11, 2003.

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  1. go2church

    go2church Active Member
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    For those interested:

    Deluxe Edition is now available in hardcover and bonded leather. Genuine leather is set for April 21st ($69.99) and calfskin for April 29th ($195.00). Here are a few details

    Bible Size: 6.5 by 9.25
    Print: 10.5 point
    black letter only
    1" margins
    everything else is the same as the Reference Edition, center column, maps, etc.

    ESV bible ordering information

    hope this helps
     
    #1 go2church, Apr 11, 2003
  2. Terry_Herrington

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    This is an extremely high price($195)for the deluxe leather.

    The Thompson Chain Reference Bible which is printed by Kirkbride is a high quality bible and is available in genuine leather for around $100. I wonder why the ESV would be almost two times as much?
     
    #2 Terry_Herrington, Apr 12, 2003
  3. Jude

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    It says "premium calfskin"...check out other Bibles with this kind of leather, and you'll see similar pricing. I'm disappointed that these have 10.5 type...they call this larger print???
     
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  4. Terry_Herrington

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    Jude,

    I have seen bibles with Morocco bindings that cost about $100. I do not believe that "premium calfskin" is more expensive that Morocco. I can't wait to see one of these bibles, too bad I can't afford to actually buy one. [​IMG]
     
    #4 Terry_Herrington, Apr 12, 2003
  5. Clay Knick

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    Larger print is due in the summer.
    I'm waiting for that.

    Clay
     
    #5 Clay Knick, Apr 12, 2003
  6. Jude

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    ME TOO!
     
    #6 Jude, Apr 12, 2003
  7. neal4christ

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    It is. I have a French Moroccan leather Cambridge Bible and a Premium Calfskin leather Cambridge Bible, and the premium was much more expensive. Also, I have seen other publishers' Bibles and the Premium Calfskin is pretty much top of the line. Moroccan is better than genuine leather, and calfskin is better than morrocan.

    Neal
     
    #7 neal4christ, Apr 14, 2003
  8. Terry_Herrington

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    Thank you Neal for this explaniation. I always believed that Morocco was the top of the line. Now I know better. [​IMG]
     
    #8 Terry_Herrington, Apr 14, 2003
  9. Dr. Bob

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    I'm finding that buying basic HARD BOUND Bibles is best for me. More than 1/2 of my church come with hardcover versions, opting to buy 3-4 different versions or study Bibles for $25 each rather than one $100 leather Bible.

    Need to get an ESV in inexpensive hardback! :cool:
     
    #9 Dr. Bob, Apr 14, 2003
  10. go2church

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    But Dr. Bob I need something that will flip and flop around wildly when I shake it at the people while I am preaching. Hardback just doesn't flip and flop very well, it doesn't give the same effect. [​IMG]
     
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  11. Jude

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    But heck, when you THROW it at 'em, the hardback hurts more! :D
     
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    No problem. It's funny how confusing it can be shopping for Bibles, it is almost like shopping for a car! [​IMG]

    Neal
     
    #12 neal4christ, Apr 14, 2003
  13. Clay Knick

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    Shopping for a Bible is a lot more fun
    than shopping for a car!!

    Clay
     
    #13 Clay Knick, Apr 14, 2003
  14. neal4christ

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    I would agree with that! [​IMG]

    Neal
     
    #14 neal4christ, Apr 14, 2003
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    I've seen cars that are CHEAPER than some Bibles, too. :rolleyes:

    And that work better! :eek:
     
    #15 Dr. Bob, Apr 15, 2003
  16. Jude

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    The ESV-folks are making the same mistake that the NASB publishers did...they are making their own Bibles, and the quality is not that great. They ought to market their Bible with Zondervan or Nelson or Cambridge or Oxford...people who have made a quality Bible in the past. Only late in 'the game' did the NASB contract with Zondervan, and then, perhaps too late.
     
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  17. Terry_Herrington

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    Jude,

    I think you have "hit the nail on the head." If the ESV had better distribution, as well as better quality, it would probably be more popular that it is now. I ask my pastor yesterday about the ESV, and he was not even aware that there was such a translation.
     
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  18. Marathon Man

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    I agree to a point about the mistake the ESV publishers are making, compared to the NASB publishers. However, I would contend that the overall quality of the NASB publishers (Foundation), at least to this point, has been far superior to that of the ESV publisher (Crossway).

    That said, I do agree that the point about either version not contracting with larger publishers, to their detriment, is a valid one.
     
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  19. Clay Knick

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    Jude,

    I agree. But I think that Crossway invested
    so much in revising the RSV that they want
    to market their product. The biggest
    mistake is the glue binding. I think the
    hardbacks are OK, the leathers are average
    to below average. Perhaps one day Cambridge
    or Oxford will publish the ESV.

    Have you seen the RSV 50th in leather,
    published by Oxford? Now that's a wonderful
    Bible. I have a burgundy leather one and
    it is beautiful.

    Clay
     
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    I've had one of the hard bound ESV's on order for more than month. It still is not listed as "in stock". If memory serves, this is the fourth time they have delayed distribution of the larger print version. I certainly hope the quality of the version is better than the quality of their distribution system!

    Did I read somewhere that there is going to be an ever larger print version coming later this year? That will be preferable. 10.5 is not a very large font.
     
    #20 Thomas, Apr 15, 2003
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