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  1. BroChris

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    Has anybody used Parson's Quick Verse? How does the free E-Sword software compare to it?
     
  2. Hardsheller

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    The last Quickverse version worth using in my opinion is version 4.0. I've been using Quickverse 4.0 since it first came out.

    But I find I am using E-Sword more and more - You absolutely cannot beat the price.
     
  3. Reformed Baptist

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    Hi guys…. I have used QV 3 for quite a long time, and I have QV 7 Deluxe, and have just been using E-sword for a short while…. For really quick searches, I have relied on QV3 despite having ver 7 and several other Bible programs, it has a very simple interface and works very well for quick searches, and I suppose I have just become very comfortable with this program. And I like the formatting when copying and pasting. For instance, a passage looks like this (see below) when using the “copy formatted” right click when on a passage that you have either highlighted with your mouse and then right clicked on the highlighted area (the quickest), or that you have selected by going to the “copy formatted” choice in the top menu after highlighting a passage with your mouse:

    (Rom 5:1-2 NNAS) Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, {2} through whom also we have obtained our introduction by faith into this grace in which we stand; and we exult in hope of the glory of God.”

    E-sword come pretty close to this, by choosing “copy verses” when right clicking on the highlighted text:
    Rom 5:1-2 NLT Therefore, since we have been made right in God's sight by faith, we have peace with God because of what Jesus Christ our Lord has done for us. (2) Because of our faith, Christ has brought us into this place of highest privilege where we now stand, and we confidently and joyfully look forward to sharing God's glory.”
    There is one added step, in E-sword after clicking on “copy verses” another dialogue box appears, and you have 6 choices as to how the formatting ought to look after it is pasted. Choice number 6 is my personal preference, just because it is what I am most used to seeing I suppose, but both programs have numerous choices as to how you want the pasted material to appear. E-Swords is a little bit easier to get to, as you have a choice every time to paste, while QV has to be changed in the clipboard options, and then the formatting is just carried out automatically after that time.

    QV’s window has more display options (so far anyway, I am still in the learning curve for E-Sword), you can have all translations (I have the NNAS, NASB, RSV, NRSV, KJV, NKJV, and the NIV with notes from Ryrie, the Believer’s Study Bible [Criswell], Matthew Henry abridged, and Scofield’s notes, and Strong’s) open at the same time, and if synchronized you can see the passage easily and clearly in numerous translations. Of course, if you open too many then you will only see a verse or 2 in each translation due to each window being pretty small.

    It looks like E-Swords version of this allows a max of 4 versions at a time when you click the Parallel tab, and a feature of E-Sword’s I do not like is that each version appears in a grid, so that if you highlight it, and copy and paste, then you end up with


    3 And not only3440 this, but we also2532 exult2744 in our tribulations2347 , knowing that tribulation2347 brings2716 about2716 perseverance5281 ; 3 Not only so, but we also rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance;
    3 And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces perseverance; 3 We can rejoice, too, when we run into problems and trials, for we know that they are good for us--they help us learn to endure.
    4 and perseverance5281 , proven1382 character1382 ; and proven1382 character1382 , hope1680 ; 4 perseverance, character; and character, hope.
    4 and perseverance, character; and character, hope. 4 And endurance develops strength of character in us, and character strengthens our confident expectation of salvation.
    5 and hope1680 does not disappoint , because3754 the love26 of God2316 has been poured out within1722 our hearts2588 through1223 the Holy40 Spirit4151 who was given1325 to us. 5 And hope does not disappoint us, because God has poured out his love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, whom he has given us.
    5 Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us.


    Christ in Our Place
    5 And this expectation will not disappoint us. For we know how dearly God loves us, because he has given us the Holy Spirit to fill our hearts with his love.


    ….. without knowing which translation is which. On the other hand, QV does not offer the choice to copy multiple versions simultaneously at all. QV has the option of more versions displayed at the same time, but E-Sword has the option of copying multiple version, despite the shortcomings in the formatting.


    Of course, most of this may only matters if you are suffering from some form of obsessive compulsive behavior problems, like I am!! LOL!!

    At any rate, E-sword is free, as well as having more translations available via the import tool, which I just love, due especially to my growing preference for the ESV versions, though both have the NASB with Strong’s numbers which is also important to me. Not only am I leaning more and more towards E-Sword despite having QV3 and 7, I also have WordSearch’s ESV/KJV version with the Jonathan Edwards package add on, LOGOS with many many add on modules (Sproul vol.1, MacArthur Study Bible, E-4, Nelson’s Electronic Library, and several others), the NIV Bible Study Edition, NIV with the Expositors set, and the PC Study Bible Advanced Reference Library; so I have sampled several Bible software progs.

    For fast verse or passage searches, it looks like E-Sword is going to be tough to beat, and since it is free, it would edge out QV anyway, since they are so close in so many other categories. And I would still use either QV or ESword for the fast searches over LOGOS, PC Study Bible or QV7, etc., but to get these one has to pay a great deal of money; i.e. PC Study Bible, $500.00; LOGOS has probably $7-800 total in add-ons, QV7Deluxe, $270.00. Of course, these Bible software packages were designed for a much more in-depth study, so they can hardly be faulted for not doing what they were not really meant to do at the outset.

    All in all, I do not think that there is anything that QV3 is capable of that E-Sword cannot also do. …..

    caveat: I am not familiar with any of the other QV progs than the ones listed, all I can do is share out of my limited experience.

    Blessings
     
  4. Reformed Baptist

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    BTW, I cannot believe I have not mentioned this before, so Mods, please don't shoot me for posting this in the freeware area too.... but there is another free software package out there that is absolutely fantastic. It is from the E-4 group. Who is the "E-4 Group"? Its simply a man and his family, not a megachurch organization, or a big company. The ministry of the Brown family in making this stuff available is simply amazing. (And no, I do not work for them, know them, or get any thing for recommending them. I have the E-4 cd [and love it!], and that is it)

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  5. SpiritualMadMan

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    I use E-sword exclusively, at this time.

    I have an old DOS Version of 'Word Search' which came with the NIV. Great for a DOS program.

    I will probably install it on a Think Pad 500 I was given. It's a little 50Mhz 486 tiny notebook running Windows 3.1! Got to get the batteries working though.

    Have the starter set for QucikVerse 7.0. It, too, is a good program. And, has access to some modules (at a price) that you simply can't get with E-sword.

    But, I simply can't afford to buy Quick Verse with the modules and add-ins I need and want.

    That leave E-Sword... A freebie.

    It has a great Tutorial available for download. And, has been intuitive enough that I haven't had to read the help file of tutorial since installing it.

    The only thing I would like to see added is the original NIV. But, Zondervon has the 'commercial' copyrights locked up on that. And, seem to be pushing the newer adulterated version...

    I heartily recommend E-Sword.
     
  6. Pete

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    I've been using QuickVerse 3.0h for about 10 years now. Have looked at a few other programs at mates' places, but none of them so far have gone anywhere near matching it.

    Downloading E-Sword now anyway to have a look at it.
     
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    After I used E-sword a few times I felt it was more than worth the $15.00 'requested' donation.

    The CD you get as a 'gift' installs about 80% of everything on the web site in one install.

    It is *very* well done.

    I don't usually send money in response to web sites... So, this is a pretty high mark from me. [​IMG]
     
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    After I used E-sword a few times I felt it was more than worth the $15.00 'requested' donation.

    The CD you get as a 'gift' installs about 80% of everything on the web site in one install.

    It is *very* well done.

    I don't usually send money in response to web sites... So, this is a pretty high mark from me. [​IMG]
     
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    Well that was fun... [​IMG] After my last post in this thread last night I downloaded 254MB worth of e-Sword and add-ins.

    From what I have seen of e-Sword so far it can easily match QuickVerse in program capabilities, and goes way above and beyond QV in pricing policy.

    When I cash up a bit after my holiday I will gladly send equivalent of what I paid for QV. e-Sword is worth more, however I don't make enough to send what it is worth [​IMG]
     
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