Eugenics Bill

[HankD]

RE:Section 1233 of the "Healthcare" Bill:

Section 1233 of the healthcare bill is rife with clauses that establish government control over the health care procedures you undergo particularly at the end of life. This section asserts that a government approved list of end of life resources will be established(Section 1233, p. 425) as well as the required “end of life counseling” every five years or if his/her health takes a sudden turn for the worst (Section 1233, P.425). It goes even further to say that a government board will determine what level of treatment you will receive, if any, at the end of your life (Section 1233, P.430). Section 1162 indicates that the government will mandate what it calls “outcome based measures,” which is a polite way of saying rationing (Section 1162, P.335).
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It is important for the American people to realize that this bill is not single-payer and that it does not provide healthcare for all. It is a eugenics program that will ration healthcare for most and outright deny it for some. The mainstream media and those who control it have created a false debate among us in an attempt to divide and distract us from the real issues at hand. The American people continue to argue with one another over issues that do not even exist. While we spin around chasing our tails they attach yet one more link in the chain of tyranny and government control

ObamaCare is a Eugenics Program Brandon Turbeville
Infowars September 4, 2009.

Found online in the Public Domain at :
http://www.infowars.com/obamacare-is-a-eugenics-program/

While we may not know the "eugenics" wording of the current version of the bill, this shows the agenda derived from the administration's view of the elderly.

HankD

 

[preachinjesus]

http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/euthanasia.asp

 

[billwald]

90% of all Medicare money is spent on the last 2 years of people's lives. My Old Man died from cancer and I think the doctors continued to cut on him because the money was there.

How come Christians like my Dad who pester people for years about "being ready to meet Jesus" change their mind when told they should start packing for the trip? If you "real" Christians would be more anxious to leave this sinful life and go to then Medicare might be in good shape.

Me, I don't know what I would do if told I had internal cancer. I think i would go to Baskins & Robbins and eat myself to death.

 

[HankD]

http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/euthanasia.asp

Euthanasia is the ulitimate end of Eugenics.

It is already happening in America : e.g. Abortion.

Euthanasia for the elderly (or anyone who "needs" it) is now legal in two states:

Washington where it is called "Death with Dignity" and
Oregon where at least they are honest and call it "Assisted Suicide".

Much of the underlying philosophy of the ObamaCare Bill is the brainchild of Ezekiel Emanuel (brother of Rahm Emanuel):

In an article written for the Hastings Center Emanuel says, “services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed. An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia” (Hastings Center Report Nov.-Dec. 1996, p.13). Emanuel is clearly advocating a eugenics-based rationing system.

http://www.infowars.com/obamacare-is-a-eugenics-program/

I have read the entire piece and it is IMO and without a doubt pro-eugenics, pro-euthanasia.

Cold and logical his philosphy is - why waste time and money to save the lives of those who will continue to drain the national resource after recuperation?

He also targets children in his crosshairs. They should be considered an investment risk of the time and materials of a 12-16 year education unless they have at least a good chance of health and potential benefit to society in later life.

He neglects to mention that the majority of the elderly individuals in reference have contributed richly to the fortune and treasure of our society (apart from the idea of compassion for those in need).

RE:billwald note:
Yes Bill, I understand.
Even murder and suicide can be justified...

Brave New World?

HankD

 

[freeatlast]

90% of all Medicare money is spent on the last 2 years of people's lives. My Old Man died from cancer and I think the doctors continued to cut on him because the money was there.

How come Christians like my Dad who pester people for years about "being ready to meet Jesus" change their mind when told they should start packing for the trip? If you "real" Christians would be more anxious to leave this sinful life and go to then Medicare might be in good shape.

Me, I don't know what I would do if told I had internal cancer. I think i would go to Baskins & Robbins and eat myself to death.

Bill I agree with you that a believer should have excitement about the near expectation of standing in the presence of the Lord. However, and I say sadly, many who claim to be His are not, or do not have the assurance they are going to make it to heaven so they seek to push back what should be the greatest time of their life, leaving this body to be with the Lord.
The Baskins & Robbins thing will work if we are ready to meet the Master.

 

[HankD]

Bill I agree with you that a believer should have excitement about the near expectation of standing in the presence of the Lord. However, and I say sadly, many who claim to be His are not, or do not have the assurance they are going to make it to heaven so they seek to push back what should be the greatest time of their life, leaving this body to be with the Lord.
The Baskins & Robbins thing will work if we are ready to meet the Master.

Still, saint or sinner, nothing justifies murder or suicide.

HankD

 

[freeatlast]

Still, saint or sinner, nothing justifies murder or suicide.

HankD

Yes I agree.

 

[Robert Snow]

This practice is now, and has always, been in existence. Do you think that the insurance companies will spend any amount on any procedure to keep a dying man alive? If so, I believe you are sadly mistaken.

 

[billwald]

>Still, saint or sinner, nothing justifies murder or suicide.

Murder, agree. Suicide, disagree. If I came down with ALS I would consider suicide over slowly choking to death.

Before dialysis was common I saw a teenager dying from kidney failure, a long, ugly process.