Evidence-Based Health Care Reform?

[carpro]

http://biggovernment.com/2010/01/19...reform-lessons-from-massachusetts/#more-61686

Evidence-Based Health Care Reform?
Lessons From Massachusetts
by Dr. Lorraine M. Schratz

In Massachusetts, where 97% of us have health insurance by mandate since 2006, we have learned a few things about health care reform.

1. We have learned that universal coverage does not mean universal access to a doctor.

2. With more than half of all the doctors trained in Massachusetts leaving the state, citing the practice environment and low salary levels, and one out of every four currently practicing doctors considering a career change, it does not appear that access issues are going to improve soon.

3. We have also learned that mandating coverage does not decrease costs. In fact, health insurance premiums have gone up and health care expenditures have not gone down since universal coverage was mandated in Massachusetts.

 

[FR7 Baptist]

http://biggovernment.com/2010/01/19...reform-lessons-from-massachusetts/#more-61686

3. We have also learned that mandating coverage does not decrease costs. In fact, health insurance premiums have gone up and health care expenditures have not gone down since universal coverage was mandated in Massachusetts.

Yes, because there is no public option. A lot of other countries have single payer, universal, Medicare-for-All healthcare and they live longer than us and spend much less money on healthcare. There is a good chance that if the Senate bill passes prices will go up. Then the connies will use that against the Democrats, when the real problem is the bill is too conservative and that's what causes the problem.

 

[rbell]

So...we let government have at something, on a limited basis, and they screw it up...

...so in response, we're going to give them unlimited authority?

No thanks.


Reminds me of a joke:

Patient: "Hey Doc, I feel awful. I broke my arm in three places! What should I do??"
Doc: "Don't go to those places anymore."

 

[just-want-peace]

Yes, because there is no public option. A lot of other countries have single payer, universal, Medicare-for-All healthcare and they live longer than us and spend much less money on healthcare. There is a good chance that if the Senate bill passes prices will go up. Then the connies will use that against the Democrats, when the real problem is the bill is too conservative and that's what causes the problem.

Rastus, who was from the deep south, had relocated to NY, and was walking around Times Square. Every time he saw a manhole cover he would pause, snap his fingers , do 3 quick claps, and whistle 2 bars of "DIXIE".

Tony, a local, was walking in the same direction as Rastus, observed this little unique action trilogy a few times when curiosity got the best of him.

Tony asked, "What the heck are you doing?

Rastus replied, " Keeping the alligators from coming out of the sewers."

Tony had to regain his composure after this, but then stated, "There are no alligators in these sewers."

Rastus responds, "Darned effective, ain't it?"

Such is the logic from the liberal side of the aisle!!:BangHead:

 

[windcatcher]

A used car saleman, sells a used car to an unsuspecting buyer. Just before completing the transaction, the smooth talking salesman steps aside and secretly orders a life insurance policy on the buyer, then hands the keys to the buyer and watches him proudly driving away in his 'new' used car............... the one with broken brakes.

The more government meddles with something which should be in our control.... the more broken it becomes and the higher the price we pay.
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Government really has no intention of 'evidence based reform". If they did.... this last flu season was a perfect opportunity for the CDC to prove or disprove both the efficiency of the H1N1 vaccine with numbers showing who took the shot and got the flu and who took the shot and didn't and compare it with the remaining population and the occurrence of flu and keeping track of flu related deaths in each group...... But it didn't.

 

[carpro]

Yes, because there is no public option. A lot of other countries have single payer, universal, Medicare-for-All healthcare and they live longer than us and spend much less money on healthcare. There is a good chance that if the Senate bill passes prices will go up. Then the connies will use that against the Democrats, when the real problem is the bill is too conservative and that's what causes the problem.

Your willful ignorance has been pushed aside by ever hopeful denial.

 

[targus]

Yes, because there is no public option. A lot of other countries have single payer, universal, Medicare-for-All healthcare and they live longer than us and spend much less money on healthcare. There is a good chance that if the Senate bill passes prices will go up. Then the connies will use that against the Democrats, when the real problem is the bill is too conservative and that's what causes the problem.

Apparently you missed the point of the OP.

Massachussetts has a "public option" administered by the State.

It is failing.

Doctors are leaving.

Patients are not getting adequate care.

The Massechussetts system is not failing because there is no "public option".

It is failing because it is a "public option".