So in Luke 8:4-15 is the parable of the seed and the soil/ground! 3 of course are bad but one is good. After taking a good look at my life I know that Luke 8:7;14 refers to me! For when I first thought I came to Christ I only ask for one thing and needed God help entirely. But after over 40 years of trying to follow Christ; and asking this same pray over and over, just to hear silence, Psalm 13:1-2 and NO! John 16:23-24; II Corinthians 1:20; Romans 8:32. And discovering this good thing is withheld from me: For the LORD God is a sun and shield: the LORD will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withheld from them that walk uprightly. Psalms 84:11. I know without a shadow of a doubt I hate God more than I can ever love Him because He withheld this good thing from me so you can understand the good thing, Proverbs 18:22 if I can’t find a girlfriend how can I ever get this. And as most men I have a strong sex drive, I Corinthians 7:2,9; Hebrews 13:4. But now all I hear from God is crickets as I burn in my own lust fearing this certain future: But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to burn. Hebrews 6:8. So if i am so pathetic as to not be able attract the opposite sex how does Psalms 139:14 apply to me? More importantly if this pray and pretty must every important pray added to this are answer NO! Why should I think the Father accepted my plead for the Blood of Jesus to save me from His wrath?
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Finding out i am the 3rd ground
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I wouldn't say so.
Ah, the third gound, ". . . bring no fruit to perfection."
Matthew 13:22," . . . he becometh unfruitful."
Mark 4:19," . . . becometh unfruitful."
?John 15:6, ". . . If a man abide not in me, . . ."
? 2 John 1:9," . . . Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not . . . ."
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@Crimson12,
1 John 5:9-13, If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
Titus 1:2, In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began; . . .
1 John 5:9-13, If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
Titus 1:2, In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began; . . .
A woman isn’t going to solve a lust problem, besides women today are not wife material.
The prayer you made is incomplete and even insulting.
“when I first thought I came to Christ I only ask for one thing and needed God help entirely. But after over 40 years of trying to follow Christ; and asking this same pray over and over, just to hear silence”
“I know without a shadow of a doubt I hate God more than I can ever love Him because He withheld this good thing from me”
So your following God was conditional that you receive this one good thing. You placed this one good thing above Him, that if you did not receive it from Him, you would hate Him.
Huge insult more than a prayer mate. You need to repent of this mate.
A real righteous prayer goes like this.
“ Lord Jesus, you know all the desires of my heart, including the one good thing I desire most. I leave this one good thing behind and totally place it in your hands. My greatest desire is for you Lord Jesus above all else, whether I receive my other desires or not, your Holy Will be done. If I receive what wanted, praise be Your Holy Name, if I don’t receive what I wanted, praise be Your Holy Name.“
Do this and mean it with all your heart, and watch everything change for the better.
End every prayer with, Your Will be done.
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Put God first above all your desires. He knows you better than you know yourself. He is infinitely Good, Loving and Intelligent, Trust Him above everything else.
Whom have I in heaven but you?
And earth has nothing I desire besides you.
My flesh and my heart may fail,
but God is the strength of my heart
and my portion forever.
Thank you Cathode or should I say Eliphaz, Bildad, Zophar or even at best Elihu ( yea Job friends)! You prove that:…the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel. Proverbs 12:10.
I already admitted to much of what you have said but how be it in the adult church there are 4 types of people happily married whom God hold no charge of idolatry, I Corinthians 7:33; married couples suffering thru their own troubles, happily celibate with a few singles whom by their own will somehow honor God; pretty much the last group of miserable singles whom the Church by twisting two passages Matthew 19:10-12; I Corinthians 7 come with the modern day abomination of 40 to 50% of the adult being given this gift of singleness even if they have a strong sex drive. Whereas the Apostle Paul even state better to marry than burn, I Corinthians 7:2;9. Paul even mention we are free to led about a wife, I Corinthians 9:5. But now this false teaching is forbidding many the gift of marriage, I Timothy 4:3. And as for Jesus words to His Disciples, Matthew 19:10-12; Christ made certain this teaching be proven false by stating: All men can not received this saying, save to them who it is given Matthew 19:11. I did forget a fifth group the young and hopeful, younger adults unmarried 18-25.
The church by teaching singleness as a gift has driven many away from their doors. For many of us know our limitation and Hope greatly to meet someone of the opposite sex at church but while the married enjoyed their social club we singles are told the church is not a social club. So where should any Christian single go for fellowship with other singles? I state this because one great sin I have committed is to abandon the church because as a single we are not consider at all; Hebrews 10:24-25. I know from reading other singles, post they have also. The curse of singleness is the modern day Scribes and Pharisees way of following Matthew 23:4. For many in the church married outside the church guidelines like sex before marriage than command others to do it this way which they ignored. Best wisdom I was given came from a gentleman name Jim there is a bit of irony in the statement: “You can have sex outside of marriage it‘s not hard.“ How to I do follow I Thessalonians 4:3! Easy as I stated and you have confirmed i am the 3rd soil/ground for true fruit not only recognizes Jesus as Redeemer but does His Father’s will, Matthew 7:15-23; Ephesians 2:8-10; James 2:8-26.
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I cannot speak to your specifics ... that is a GOD thing WAY above my pay grade. Here is what I know:
I lived decades celibate (and not a Priest), just figuring that "marriage" wasn't in the cards for me. One day, an elder asked "what would it take for me to get married?" and I realized that I didn't really even have a good understanding of exactly what the Biblical JOB DESCRIPTION entailed. How can you decide IF you want to be married if you don't even know what MARRIED means?
So I read EVERYTHING in the Bible on "married" and "husband" and "wife" looking for clues about the Job Description. The best place to find the Job Description for HUSBAND is "Hosea". I suggest that you reread Hosae as a JOB DESCRIPTION for being a husband. Here are a few highlights:
Marriage is going to be really hard - you best enter it with that expectation and commit to FOREVER and NO MATTER WHAT!
The JOB of a Husband is to love God and his wife "no matter what" and to do "whatever it takes" to "present her blameless before God.
You will get hurt.
It will NOT make sense.
It is no business for BOYS.
If you can't do it, or don't want to do that ... then stay single.
Divorce is harder than Marriage to live with.
No matter what, the first step is becoming a HUSBAND (a man able and willing to do the job).
That has NOTHING to do with finding a woman (or the right woman).
I lived decades celibate (and not a Priest), just figuring that "marriage" wasn't in the cards for me. One day, an elder asked "what would it take for me to get married?" and I realized that I didn't really even have a good understanding of exactly what the Biblical JOB DESCRIPTION entailed. How can you decide IF you want to be married if you don't even know what MARRIED means?
So I read EVERYTHING in the Bible on "married" and "husband" and "wife" looking for clues about the Job Description. The best place to find the Job Description for HUSBAND is "Hosea". I suggest that you reread Hosae as a JOB DESCRIPTION for being a husband. Here are a few highlights:
Marriage is going to be really hard - you best enter it with that expectation and commit to FOREVER and NO MATTER WHAT!
The JOB of a Husband is to love God and his wife "no matter what" and to do "whatever it takes" to "present her blameless before God.
You will get hurt.
It will NOT make sense.
It is no business for BOYS.
If you can't do it, or don't want to do that ... then stay single.
Divorce is harder than Marriage to live with.
No matter what, the first step is becoming a HUSBAND (a man able and willing to do the job).
That has NOTHING to do with finding a woman (or the right woman).
We aren’t in normal times mate. Part of the Apocalypse experience is the destruction of gender relations and the normal ways of living.
Marriage is no longer marriage. Women even in Christian society are heavily infected with feminism and there are giant industries geared to destroy men and families set in place. Divorce courts are doing a roaring trade, and many government departments are solely reliant on divorce for their relevance and existence. Not only do they have zero interest in reducing divorce rates, they have every incentive to maximise it, and make it as acrimonious as possible.
The divorce rates between Christians and the secular society are the same. Women instigate 70+% of divorces, and 90+% if they have college degrees.
Don’t look for sympathy among Churches, they don’t realise the carnage that is happening out there. They still encourage young men with hopes in their hearts to get married, not caring that they are lambs to the slaughter.
Never have men been more disposable than today, the government is women’s husband. “ The man you are with is not your husband “.
Countless millions of single mothers rely on husband Government, and Government is a much bigger man than you are. Feminism rides the beast of Government and that beast feeds on men.
Marriage and family is a good thing, but today it has been weaponised to be very bad thing.
Men get married to be noble self sacrificial protectors and providers raising a family, not destitute, wage garnished slaves, living in a car and never seeing their kids.
Don’t look for sympathy among married men either, they only understand after they have been mauled by the beast. Their “ man up “ lectures evaporate completely.
I saw this happen before, a married man giving his cliche lecture to a guy going through divorce, and two years later that bloke had his divorce, totally bewildered that he was now in the jaws of the beast.
“How can you expect a man who's warm to understand one who's cold?” Alexander Solzhenitsyn.
Many men are being preserved from this present carnage by the Grace of God, they have worked out that the very good thing as been high jacked and weaponised by the dark.
Hosea is a lesson on what not to do. God was demonstrating by Hosea’s life, what His feeling was like living with Israel’s infidelity.
God told Hosea to marry a whore, made Hosea a salutary lesson for men for all human history.
We see this phenomenon across every church, the phenomenon of the born again whore.
Women in their 30s all of a sudden getting religion because their biological clock is running out, and they find a white knight Christian putz to settle for. They have given their youth, beauty, sweetness, bonding ability and virginity away to every stud in town and the next county, but due to the biological clock they’ll settle for the “ Good Christian man “. They’ll give the stale leftovers to the “ Good Christian man “, the used car with 600,000 miles on it, with strange noises and smells and even stranger stains, like a family of raccoons lived in it for a decade.
The “ Good Christian man “ never has the joy of that new car smell, with so many previous owners, the car never seems quite his, it’s just his turn. The ghosts of studs past haunt the thing, and it has all the signs of a flogged out old rental.
The born again whore will have no ability to pair bond, she will always compare you to the stud she really loves from back in her 20’s that she will never get over till her dying breath.
She will never be faithful.
And when she finds that she can have the same lifestyle getting Government assistance, child support and alimony, she will divorce her husband.
Why do the hard work of taking care of a real husband, the husband Government only asks for her vote every 4 years, yet throws money at her, and makes her real husband her slave she doesn’t even have to feed.
Don’t let me put men off marriage though. If you like a huge challenge, a deadly mountain to climb, and you love learning the hard way, be my guest.
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What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD,the Word of GOD is from everlasting to everlasting,the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, understand? Your thinking is from a human perspective, a stumblingblock, not from GOD's perspective.
Actually, GOD hath concluded them all in unbelief, that He might have mercy upon all.
John 3:16-19:
16 For GOD so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For GOD sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through Him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on Him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of GOD.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Matthew 13:19-23:
19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.
20 But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;
21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.
22 He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.
23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.
You have quoted several Scriptures, but the letter killeth, so in your self-Judgment you killed yourself, because you deceived yourself, and died. Only the Spirit giveth life-John 6:63->JESUS said: It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. (JESUS said to the Devil: Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of GOD.
The author of Psalms 64 begs GOD to keep him, to preserve his life, and hopes that He will grant it to him. He said:
1 - Hear my voice, O GOD, in my prayer: preserve my life from fear of the enemy.
2 Hide me from the secret counsel of the wicked; from the insurrection of the workers of iniquity:
3 Who whet their tongue like a sword, and bend their bows to shoot their arrows, even bitter words:
4 That they may shoot in secret at the perfect: suddenly do they shoot at him, and fear not.
5 They encourage themselves in an evil matter: they commune of laying snares privily; they say, Who shall see them?
6 They search out iniquities; they accomplish a diligent search: both the inward thought of every one of them, and the heart, is deep.
7 But GOD shall shoot at them with an arrow; suddenly shall they be wounded.
8 So they shall make their own tongue to fall upon themselves: all that see them shall flee away.
9 And all men shall fear, and shall declare the work of GOD; for they shall wisely consider of His doing.
10 The righteous shall be glad in the Lord, and shall trust in him; and all the upright in heart shall glory.
It's it.
Brother, I am going to have to close this thread.
You need some counseling. You are connecting dots that have nothing to do with one another. Your lack of a wife has NOTHING to do with God. Your hatred of God has NOTHING to do with your unfulfilled sex drive.
I, too, have never married. It's been not a good thing sometimes. I completely understand. But what I don't understand is the connection you are making between church, God, a wife, and sex.
It would never DAWN on me to quit going to church just because I am 63 and single. Never! I can't make that connection. And I could NEVER hate God or blame him for my status of being single.
Contact your primary doctor and tell him/her that you need a counselor or therapist. Also tell your doctor that your sex drive is controlling everything about you to the point of hating God.
I'm going to have to close this thread for another reason. You are getting TERRIBLE counsel from the poster named Cathode.
You may stay here and discuss anything you wish, including not having a wife. But if you tell us how much you hate God again, I will have to ban you.
I've seen some disgusting things about women across the internet for the past 23 years and this one is right up there.
I just thought you were just a Catholic guy who liked to push his Catholic notions onto Protestants.
I had no idea that you blanketly believed and taught that all women were whores, not wife material, and had sex with so many men that, like a used car, and had only "used leftovers" to offer a husband.
Why would you make blanket claims like this on the Baptist Board? This is some sick stuff. Don't do this again.
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