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For GOP, Pitfalls In Ignoring Poor

Crabtownboy

Crabtownboy

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Why do current Republicans dislike the poor so much, even the working poor and the working middle class?


People who depend upon the aid of the government via food stamps, unemployment checks and mortgage relief are typically written off as parasites and losers. (Meanwhile, corporations that depend upon government largess for bailouts and subsidies are celebrated as paragons of free enterprise, but that's another matter.)

Republicans can ignore them, demean them, work around them or punish them, but in any scenario poor Americans and close-to-poor Americans are not going away anytime soon.

No matter what happens now, regardless of who lives in the White House next year, tens of millions of Americans are going to face difficulty finding work, paying their bills, supporting their children and securing health care. They are going to need help.

Romney knows this, but that may now be irrelevant. He and his running mate, Paul Ryan -- who plays a fiscal conservative on the stump while handing out tax cuts to rich people -- have branded themselves the guys who will take an axe to government spending. If they win, they will be beholden to those who wrote the checks to engineer their victory -- mostly major corporations and their executives, who are keen on paying as little in taxes as possible. They have promised to gut the safety net. Walking that back would be both politically dangerous and arithmetically impossible, given their tax cut promises.

Romney and Ryan are running a campaign centered on turning out their base in abundant numbers while depressing turnout among likely Obama supporters, with barriers at polling places (impeding low-income and minority voters), and a relentless stream of cynical television advertising that seems designed to disgust and exhaust all but the hardiest citizens.

Disparaging the poor and vowing to take apart the social safety net may turn out to be good politics for the Republicans this time, because it appeals to those inclined to see Obama as a champion of big government. For middle-class people threatened with downward mobility, rejecting government as a source of wasted expenditure is a natural impulse. This is how we got President Reagan: Wage growth had been stagnating and many people needed more cash, making tax cuts compelling.

But the Republican gimmick of promising prosperity through tax cuts while handing most of the loot to the wealthy can only work for so long. Most Americans get how this story played out during the splendiferous reign of George W. Bush.

As more middle-class families suffer growing proximity to poverty, Republicans will face greater electoral risks in ignoring the needs of people who require help. More than merely heartless, this strategy will widen the distance between Republicans and the experiences of Americans who used to feel secure and don't anymore.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-s-goodman/republicans-poor-mitt-romney-paul-ryan_b_1825205.html
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LadyEagle

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Typical Huff Post fluff and conservative bashing.

They are going to need help.
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Yep, and the best help the middle class and poor can get is job creation by the private sector instead of government handouts by failed obama job creation policies.

What don't liberals get? Wealth is created by the private sector. Dependency and poverty is created by government handouts as witnessed over decades by Democratic schemes to redistribute wealth. Prime example is Detroit.

Obama's job creation policy was to redistribute wealth, or the tax dollars that only 50% of Americans pay, to his cronies - Solyndra, et al.

More fear mongerng by the Huff Post.

God says we are not to have the spirit of fear.

Edited to say: Democrats seem to dislike this country so much, they want to keep us all poor and drive our nation into bankruptcy. The National Debt Clock keeps on ticking by billions of dollars under the obama administration. Brilliant idea to show the National Debt Clock as the backdrop for the Republican Convention.
 
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OldRegular

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Crabtownboy said:
Why do current Republicans dislike the poor so much, even the working poor and the working middle class?
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All my forbearers, both sides, would be considered working poor and all were Republicans. They were Republicans because they did not like the collectivist direction in which the democrats were moving. All my siblings and cousins could be considered middle class and they were all Republicans. [At least if any were democrats they kept quite.]

So old Crabbie you are looking at things from an elitist democrat position and are in the dark. You will remain in the dark as long as you read that leftist rag run by the elitist and super rich leftist Ariana huffington!
 
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targus

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"Romney and Ryan are running a campaign centered on turning out their base in abundant numbers while depressing turnout among likely Obama supporters, with barriers at polling places (impeding low-income and minority voters)..."

What does this even mean?

Are Republicans setting up toll booths at voting stations?

Making the voting machines password protected?

Crabby and Democrats sure like to say a whole lot of generalized and meaningless words:laugh:.
 
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OldRegular

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LadyEagle said:
Edited to say: Democrats seem to dislike this country so much, they want to keep us all poor and drive our nation into bankruptcy. The National Debt Clock keeps on ticking by billions of dollars under the obama administration. Brilliant idea to show the National Debt Clock as the backdrop for the Republican Convention.
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Frankly I believe the elitist democrats want a return to the days of the privileged few [themselves] with the rest of us common folks are in the serf or untouchable class. Seems to me that the leftists/democrats, at least in my lifetime, have always had a tendency to make a little demigod out of the democrat president.

I guess I will have to amend that a little; they didn't care much for Truman. He was poor before politics and dropped the bomb!
 
Crabtownboy

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LadyEagle said:
Typical Huff Post fluff and conservative bashing.



Yep, and the best help the middle class and poor can get is job creation by the private sector instead of government handouts by failed obama job creation policies.

What don't liberals get? Wealth is created by the private sector. Dependency and poverty is created by government handouts as witnessed over decades by Democratic schemes to redistribute wealth. Prime example is Detroit.
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What Republicans do not understand is that there are many who are working and still remain below the poverty level. Republicans seem to hold them in contempt also.



Obama's job creation policy was to redistribute wealth, or the tax dollars that only 50% of Americans pay, to his cronies - Solyndra, et al.
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And Republicans seem to want to redistribute money from the poor to those already rich. Tax cuts for the rich, but not for the poor.



Edited to say: Democrats seem to dislike this country so much, they want to keep us all poor and drive our nation into bankruptcy. The National Debt Clock keeps on ticking by billions of dollars under the obama administration. Brilliant idea to show the National Debt Clock as the backdrop for the Republican Convention.
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Bush had a budget surplus but took care of that quickly and started this downward spiral.

 
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targus

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Crabtownboy said:
And Republicans seem to want to redistribute money from the poor to those already rich. Tax cuts for the rich, but not for the poor.
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Tax cuts for the poor?

You mean the 47% that pay no income taxes but still get a refund?

Those poor?

How do you cut taxes for people who aren't paying taxes to start with?
 
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OldRegular

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Crabtownboy said:
Bush had a budget surplus but took care of that quickly and started this downward spiral.
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Actually CTB it was the recession and 9/11 terrorist attack he inherited from Clinton. You do recall the dot com bubble burst don't you? You do remember the terrorist attack on 9/11 don't you CTB? The terrorist attack was directed by Osama bin Laden whom Clinton failed to take into custody when he could.
 
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LadyEagle

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I do know that the average income of the middle class has dropped since obama took the oath. I do know that the housing bubble was created by Democrats who wanted everyone to own a home whether they could afford one or not and they pressured the banks to lend money to people who could not qualify under normal lending practices. And I know that my house has lost about $40,000 at least in value since obama took the oath of office. I see my pay check has shrunk, as well, since obama took the oath. And I say oath tongue in cheek, because he has trampled the Constitution under foot.

Also, more people are on food stamps, more people are without jobs since obama took office. His plan? To destroy this great nation and bring us to our knees. He is succeeding, IMO.
 
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Revmitchell

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targus said:
"Romney and Ryan are running a campaign centered on turning out their base in abundant numbers while depressing turnout among likely Obama supporters, with barriers at polling places (impeding low-income and minority voters)..."

What does this even mean?

Are Republicans setting up toll booths at voting stations?

Making the voting machines password protected?

Crabby and Democrats sure like to say a whole lot of generalized and meaningless words:laugh:.
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It means the Dems are setting up their lawsuits to steal the elections when Obama loses. It is pure desperation. It is a fact that Democrats set up barriers at poll booths.
 
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Mexdeaf

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I would be classified as "working poor" and I haven't voted for a Democrat since Rep. Charlie Bennett left office in Florida. Since the old- time Democrats left office or died off the Dems have gone hog-wild to the left (and the Repubs are not far behind)!
 
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