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Discussion in 'Books & Publications Forum' started by exscentric, Jun 9, 2010.

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  1. exscentric

    exscentric Well-Known Member
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    Is it customary for a publisher to charge a fee when you ask for permission to quote one of their books in your book?

    Had never run into this till today, was wondering if it is something new or ???

    Just call me curious.
     
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  2. matt wade

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    Unless you are quoting very large sections of the book, it likely falls under "fair use". I work in technical publishing and have never encountered an instance where we have quoted enough text to go beyond what would be considered fair use.

    The publisher is likely asking for a fee simply because it doesn't hurt them to ask. If you pay, they get the fee.
     
    #2 matt wade, Jun 9, 2010
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    It has been a while since I had anything published, but that wasn't the norm when I was freelancing.
     
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    Who owns the copyright? You or the publisher?

    It seems to me, like already posted, that is the quote is not long it should be free and footnoted in your new text. Call your editor and check it out.
     
    #4 Crabtownboy, Jun 10, 2010
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    I've never heard of that for small quotes. Maybe for a large portion, but not something small.
     
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    I had never run into it before. This is a major secular publisher that owns the copyright on one of A W Tozer's books and on the sheet wanting more information was "*Please note a permission fee will apply."

    Not likely, I know how to cut and not paste :wavey:

    Most allow 3-400 fair use on their websites and this quote was 390 words. (I had several very brief quotes from one of their dictionaries as well.)

    Cannot imagine the sense of charging a fee when they are getting free advertising but that is their business.
     
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    Dear Brother,

    I have just started a publishing company borderstonepress.com. We solicit manuscripts.

    I find this question very very interesting. As one new to the publishing game, I think what I would do is let the person use as much material as needed. 400 words in a block quote sounds fair. However, we must keep in mind that we do take "bread out of" the author's or publisher's mouth if we infringe on copyright laws.

    In this case, I would probably quote about 200 words or about 1/2 and cite it; then I would paraphrase the other 200 or weave it into my narrative and cite it again.

    Visit out web page @ http://borderstonepress.com/

    You know my work, you know my reputation.

    "That is all!"
     
    #7 Rhetorician, Jun 24, 2010
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    I have had very good relations with most publishers, but a couple will not answer my request and this one wanted bucks :laugh:

    I understand protection of property but I also understand getting their company/author's name out to the public which will result in more sales which you would think would be a good trade off :thumbs:

    Part of my problem is that the quotes came from books back in the 90's, when I first put things on the internet, and since copyrights have shifted to other publishers, they have reformatted and republished and I don't have the original or new books. One publisher required their page numbers, which is understandable, but cost me the price of their new book :laugh:
     
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    For the record, if you want to quote any thing I have "published" here at the board, feel free for free. :D
     
    #9 SaggyWoman, Jul 6, 2010
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    Alright, that will save us loads of time :thumbs:
     
    #10 exscentric, Jul 7, 2010
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