For Those Who Refuse to Support our Military

Wow, that was really well put! I wish all people felt like this! :thumbs:

 

You are entitled to your opinions and feelings about this matter and as long as you do not attack individual members, you are posting within the posting rules of the board. However, I am going to move this out of the News Forum to the Politics Forum. That is, if I can figure out how to do it. BTW, I agree with you about our military.

Lady Eagle,
Moderator

 

yeah, once everyone has the same stance, I wouldn't have the trouble of them uncontroabally influencing mine and constantly arguing over it.

 

Who is not "supporting our troops"? What does that mean anyway? That is rather a vague phrase - what does it mean exactly?

There's always Blackwater. We need the ACLU to fight the enemy within which tries to take our civil rights - including those who wantonly charge others with treason for daring to criticize.


Putting down Democratic politicians in some sort of ill-conceived, misguided snitfit hardly makes your case more credible; it just seems as though you are regurgitating hate-radio rant points for no particular reason except you somehow seem to blame them for the ills of the troops. Seriously, what has supporting the goals of the UN, the ACLU, lawyers and Democratic party politicians have to do with supporting or not supporting our troops? Where is the dichotomy?

No choice? There is no draft any more and hasn't been for more than two decades. Joining the military is a choice now. Whether you serve honorably or not is also a choice (barring severe mental or emotional illness).


If you did not fight for some particular people, do they still owe you gratitude - or just your agreed upon pay and benefits?

I call this hubris to compare yourself so very favorably to Christ. Who are you to judge the souls of your fellow men?

What triggered this rant? Is it because some people have mentioned atrocities which may have been committed by some troops? If you consider comment on the conduct of war and criticism of bad actions of a few to be treason, then you have a tenuous grasp of what treason is.

 

It is by condemning the improper actions(even in war) of the .01% of the military who do such things that we honor the 99.99% our troops who sacrifice and give honor to the uniform that they wear.

 

Amen to that!

 

Good post Daisy.

thjplgvp,

I'll be making my reply to your post point by point later on after I've given it much thought.

 

As daisy said, this was rather vague. Are you saying support our troops or support this unGodly and unconstitutional war?

I support the safety of the troops and I have friends in the military that I pray for.
But, if you think I am going to give my consent to Mr. Bushes war for empire, for policeman of the world,. you had better think again.
As for the troops, I pity the ones who were forced to go over there that did not support the war in the first place.

 

I find it noteworthy that you still have not explained what you meant by "supporting the troops".

So?

 

What are you talking about?

 

They've brought in a draft and are allowing the "[SIZE=-1]Nuremberg Defense" now are they? I must have missed it... [/SIZE]

Fair dinkum....

What is there to support if the soldiers are just blindly going in to clean up the mess that politicians allowed to build up over 20-30 years? How many other looney time-bombs are the U.S. currently supporting that will blow up eventually? Answer: All of them.

Tell you what, if when the soldiers get home they feel like doing another "regime change" and go ask those from previous administrations who supported Saddam Insane and Co a few questions I'll gladly support them. Until then though I can't see much difference between the army's humans and it's hardware.

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Well, I guess you must have put asbestos jacket on before typing that line, so ok, I'll bite :tongue3:

Isn't it maybe going just a tad far linking salvation with questioning the policy of the day (minute? second??) of the Holy American Empire...

I've heard some..."interesting"...things in taxi after 12 on Saturday night shift, this line went close to beating them all :laugh:

 

Maybe 3rd Time Will Be the Charm...

What do you mean by "supporting the troops"?

How can we discuss this if you won't define your terms?

 

Amen to that.

Part of the problem is not pointing out the atrocities allegedly committed by a handful of our many troops, but the fact that some folks speedily accept the guilt of our troops.

 

Why did they second-guess our commitment to freedom from genocide and demand that we cut and run?
"President Clinton is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation's armed forces about how long they will be away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy." -Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA)


"No goal, no objective, not until we have those things and a compelling case is made, then I say, back out of it, because innocent people are going to die for nothing. That's why I'm against it." -Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/5/99[oh what a hypocrite]


"American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery. Simply put, the administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy." -Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)


"If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy." -Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of presidential candidate George W. Bush


Why did they demoralize our brave men and women in uniform?
"I had doubts about the bombing campaign from the beginning...I didn't think we had done enough in the diplomatic area." -Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)


"You think Vietnam was bad? Vietnam is nothing next to Kosovo." -Tony Snow, Fox News 3/24/99


"Well, I just think it's a bad idea. What's going to happen is they're going to be over there for 10, 15, maybe 20 years" -Joe Scarborough (R-FL)
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I agree very seldom with Tom Delay but he did say this ..with those with
short memories ..to put this critique of the occupation in persepective.

"You can support the troops but not the president"

-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)


so come on! those with short memories...get real!

 

Just for clarification... We are still in Kosovo.... about 10 years later.

 

Yes, I think that is the point of the OP.

 

BTW, Why are you now making these kinds of statements against Bush but protesting that these others did it to Clinton.

Let's get the facts straight: Clinton and Bush effectively agreed on Iraq. Bush took the Clinton policy to its conclusion- regime change.

Some Republicans condemned Clinton but not Bush- hypocrites.

You have condemned Bush but not Clinton-....?