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Forbes article: Don't marry career women

Discussion in '2006 Archive' started by thomas not doubting, Aug 29, 2006.

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  1. thomas not doubting

    thomas not doubting New Member

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    Forbes magazine has published a controversial article that's causing quite an uproar.

    Writer Michael Noer states it pretty plainly: "Whatever you do, don't marry a career woman.

    "To put it bluntly, the more successful she is, the more likely she is to grow dissatisfied with you. Marry pretty women or ugly ones. Short ones or tall ones. Blondes or brunettes. Just, whatever you do, don't marry a woman with a career."

    Noer cites studies in various journals that say the professional woman is a woman who has a college degree, works at least 35 hours a week and therefore earns more than $30,000 a year. He said she's more likely to get divorced and cheat on her husband with co-workers. She will be either angry about having kids or angry about not having kids.

    Noer argued that marriage is hardest when both partners work outside the home, and that research shows divorce is more likely the more hours a woman works.

    Conversely, the same is not true of a man's workload.

    Many are calling the article outrageous. The response online was quick.

    Hundreds of postings popped up in online chat rooms.

    "I can't even imagine what would make someone say that. It's a throwback to the '70s, '60s or '50s" said one woman.

    Forbes.com removed the article, later reposting it, accompanied by another article, from a happily married female Forbes writer who's worked for more than 20 years.

    Here is a link to the article:

    http://www.forbes.com/home/2006/08/23/Marriage-Careers-Divorce_cx_mn_land.html
     
    #1 thomas not doubting, Aug 29, 2006
  2. El_Guero

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    First,

    What do you think?
     
    #2 El_Guero, Aug 29, 2006
  3. James_Newman

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    Happened to my brother-in-law. The workplace is full of wolves with a sympathetic ear for your wives' troubles. Men, you ought to be watching out for your family instead of your lifestyle.
     
    #3 James_Newman, Aug 29, 2006
  4. Daisy

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    It's true that the more dependent a woman is on her husband financially, the less likely she'll leave him. But it's really sad if financial dependence is all you have to hold her.

    My mother & grandmothers advised us girls to go to college and have a career - so we could leave if we had to and take care of ourselves if we were left.

    Marry a woman who loves you and treat her well - then, whether she has a career or not, she'll probably not leave you.
     
    #4 Daisy, Aug 29, 2006
  5. billwald

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    Old (Mexican?) song . . . if you want to be happy for the rest of your life be sure to marry an ugly wife.
     
    #5 billwald, Aug 29, 2006
  6. Filmproducer

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    :thumbsup: :thumbs: Couldn't have said it better myself! BTW, I am a happily married, mother of two, college educated, career woman.
     
    #6 Filmproducer, Aug 29, 2006
  7. El_Guero

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    Preach it brother!

    Wayne

     
    #7 El_Guero, Aug 29, 2006
  8. El_Guero

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    don't know it - but it sounds sage.

     
    #8 El_Guero, Aug 29, 2006
  9. Filmproducer

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    Hmmm... let me get this straight, some of you decided you would rather have an "ugly" wife, or one that you keep under lock and key, than intelligent, career woman who you treat right? Where is the logic in that? I applaud housewives, don't get me wrong, but a woman CAN have a career and a family, and not cheat, or even be tempted to cheat. Women are not as naive as some of you think, we can generally spot the "wolf in sheep's clothing". Maybe I misunderstood, but maybe some of you need to get your priorities straight. Marriage is a partnership that takes the work of BOTH spouses, regardless of whether the woman stays home, or has a career.
     
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  10. Scarlett O.

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    I am very sorry for what happened to your brother-in-law.

    And I agree that the workplace can be a place where people "prowl". I also know that if these troubled wives, as you call them, didn't have troubles at home to begin with, then they would not need that sympathetic ear from another man.

    And for wives who are looking for a sympathetic ear, they will find it anywhere, the workplace, the doctor's office, the grocery store, or in the confines of their home on the internet. Even keeping her under lock and key won't protect her if she is seeking sympathy.

    Conversely, the same can be said for husbands. Husbands looking for someone to pet them and give them a little attention like these troubled wives you mention will also find it. And in the same places.

    Yet, there are a countless men and women who work together all of the time who don't play those games. The are confident in themselves and trusting of their mates and grounded in their marriages. They don't have perfect relationships, but they have strong ones.

    You said that men ought to be watching out for their families. I agree, and so should women. But that doesn't mean to view all working women as sympathy seekers nor all working men as wolves. And I know that you didn't say that, but men and women wouldn't have to "watch out" for their families (as a defense mechanism) as much, if they watched OVER each other more (as a nurturing device).

     
    #10 Scarlett O., Aug 29, 2006
  11. Scarlett O.

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    FP, I don't think that's what they meant to say, even though that's how it came out. I think they were just trying to be funny.
     
    #11 Scarlett O., Aug 29, 2006
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    Well, I am triple-posting here and I am awfully sorry about that, but I just now read the article in question.

    All I can say is.....no WONDER I'm not married!! :tongue3:

    Where was the author of this article when I needed him years ago? Why didn't somebody tell me that women who "work" more than 35 hours a week and make more than $30,000 per year make lousy wives! :confused:

    Those are his statistics.

    Oh, and he also said that contributing to the working wives wearing a big "L" for loser on their foreheads was having a college degree.

    Well, good grief! I have two graduate degrees!

    It's no wonder that I am husbandless....Ha!!!

    .....according to this article I can't be potential wife material because I'm too smart, I work too hard, and I have too much money....Yee Ha!!!!

    At least now I know. :smilewinkgrin: At least now I have an answer for everytime someone asks me, "Why aren't you married?!?!?"

    It's always good to hear from the "experts", is it not?

    Ha!! :laugh:
     
    #12 Scarlett O., Aug 29, 2006
  13. El_Guero

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    IMHO

    Maybe some of us have decided that it is better to be treated right by an ugly woman than to be treated badly by an intelligent, career woman.

    IMHO it is better to have a godly relationship with my wife than a worldly one . . . and if I place intelligence, looks, or career over godliness - that I have erred in God's book . . .

    Again, that is my opinion.
     
    #13 El_Guero, Aug 29, 2006
  14. El_Guero

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    Where can I buy my degree?
     
    #14 El_Guero, Aug 29, 2006
  15. Daisy

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    Would you really consider someone you love "ugly"? I doubt you'd be treating her well.
     
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    I do appreciate my Mother's advice even more -- be certain when you marry that you are not unequally yoked, that the Lord is as important to your spouse as to yourself. Worked well for me for 45 years and still counting.

    Oh, yeah, and she also said an education was good in and of itself. She was right there, too. I enjoyed being a stay-at-home mom when my children were young. And at 50 a wonderfully fun career was offered, accepted and enjoyed. Wouldn't have traded a day of my life for anything different. (Well, there was that one rattlesnake hunt in Oklahoma.....)
     
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  18. Jeff Weaver

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    I see some knuckles dragging the ground in this thread.
     
    #18 Jeff Weaver, Aug 30, 2006
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    **SPLAAAT!!*

    Good grief! Now who's gonna help me clean up the Sprite that I just spit out all over my monitor?!?

    :laugh: ;) :eek: :laugh:
     
    #19 Scarlett O., Aug 30, 2006
  20. El_Guero

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    Daisy

    Petty comments do not do a lady well . . .

    It would take me days to be that tacky in return . . .



     
    #20 El_Guero, Aug 31, 2006
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