1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

"Fresh Perspective, New Ideas?"

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Baptist in Richmond, Nov 8, 2006.

Top Posters
  1. Baptist in Richmond

    Baptist in Richmond Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2003
    Messages:
    5,123
    Likes Received:
    19
    President Bush is appointing Gates as Secretary of Defense?

    I don't get that one......

    Regards,
    BiR
     
    #1 Baptist in Richmond, Nov 8, 2006
  2. genesis 12-15

    genesis 12-15 New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2006
    Messages:
    42
    Likes Received:
    0
    I don't either. He's got lots of experience in intelligence operations, but I think he is a Clark Kent on defense. Maybe he'll bear that big "S" under his dress shirt.
     
    #2 genesis 12-15, Nov 8, 2006
  3. The Galatian

    The Galatian Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2001
    Messages:
    9,687
    Likes Received:
    1
    See, Bush can learn. You just have to get his attention, first.
     
    #3 The Galatian, Nov 8, 2006
  4. Pastor Larry

    Pastor Larry <b>Moderator</b>
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    May 4, 2001
    Messages:
    21,763
    Likes Received:
    0
    What don't you get about Gates? He has a 25 year record in the CIA and national security, doesn't he? He worked with both Republican and Democratic presidents I think.

    I don't know anything about him other than the little bit I saw on the news yesterday.
     
    #4 Pastor Larry, Nov 9, 2006
  5. Daisy

    Daisy New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2003
    Messages:
    7,751
    Likes Received:
    0
    Here is the prediction of SourceWatch.org (linkie):
    Or Sean Kelly's prediction. Declare victory and go home - would this be this good or bad?
     
    #5 Daisy, Nov 9, 2006
  6. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2004
    Messages:
    25,823
    Likes Received:
    1,167
    Faith:
    Baptist
    It might be better than what liberal democrats want...to declare defeat and go home.
     
    #6 carpro, Nov 9, 2006
  7. Baptist in Richmond

    Baptist in Richmond Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2003
    Messages:
    5,123
    Likes Received:
    19
    What I don't get is in the title of this thread, which are the words used to describe Gates. They are not applicable in this particular sense, given the short biography you have offered.

    Hope all is well,
    BiR
     
    #7 Baptist in Richmond, Nov 9, 2006
  8. Baptist in Richmond

    Baptist in Richmond Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2003
    Messages:
    5,123
    Likes Received:
    19
    It's not just the LIBERAL Democrats anymore, carpro.

    BiR
     
    #8 Baptist in Richmond, Nov 9, 2006
  9. Pastor Larry

    Pastor Larry <b>Moderator</b>
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    May 4, 2001
    Messages:
    21,763
    Likes Received:
    0
    BiR,

    When I watched the press conference yesterday, I understood "fresh perspective and new ideas" to be in reference to the Iraq War, not in reference to having no experience. Based on his resume, and knowing nothing about him personally, I would think a guy with a 25 year history, including time in a war that was won, would be a big plus. He comes from outside rather than being one of the Defense Department's under secretaries.

    So I don't really know. But I would imagine that the Dems will give him a hard time.
     
    #9 Pastor Larry, Nov 9, 2006
  10. saturneptune

    saturneptune New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2006
    Messages:
    13,977
    Likes Received:
    2
    Nice post Larry. Why dont all of you give the guy a chance? The election is over. Time to move on.
     
    #10 saturneptune, Nov 9, 2006
  11. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2004
    Messages:
    25,823
    Likes Received:
    1,167
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I refuse to believe that all democrats want to declare defeat like the liberal democrats do. Some of them are smarter than that.
     
    #11 carpro, Nov 9, 2006
  12. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2004
    Messages:
    25,823
    Likes Received:
    1,167
    Faith:
    Baptist
    All that really matters to most democrats is that Bush wants him. That's enough reason to oppose the nomination.
     
    #12 carpro, Nov 9, 2006
  13. Baptist in Richmond

    Baptist in Richmond Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2003
    Messages:
    5,123
    Likes Received:
    19
    Who are the "liberal democrats" that "want to declare defeat?"
     
    #13 Baptist in Richmond, Nov 9, 2006
  14. Baptist in Richmond

    Baptist in Richmond Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2003
    Messages:
    5,123
    Likes Received:
    19
    Good post, Pastor Larry.

    I disagree with the notion that this will be a fresh perspective. Gates has been around for many years. As I recall, he was involved in the whole Iran/Contra affair. Why not turn to one of the generals or admirals who have military experience? Why not use someone that is less motivated by politics?

    Regards,
    BiR
     
    #14 Baptist in Richmond, Nov 9, 2006
  15. Terry_Herrington

    Terry_Herrington New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2002
    Messages:
    4,455
    Likes Received:
    1
    No, I don't think the Democrats will automatically oppose Gates just because Bush wants him. I do think, however, that we need to be watchful when Bush does something; he makes so many mistakes and is prone to exaggerating information, like the intelligence they cherry-picked in the run up to the war in Iraq. Bush and his administration have shown that they cannot be trusted with making the right decisions and really need some Congressional oversight. Now this Democratic Congress will give him this needed oversight.
     
    #15 Terry_Herrington, Nov 9, 2006
  16. Magnetic Poles

    Magnetic Poles New Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2005
    Messages:
    10,407
    Likes Received:
    0
    As I understand it, the lame duck Congress will vote on Gates prior to the new Democratic majority taking over.
     
    #16 Magnetic Poles, Nov 9, 2006
(You must log in or sign up to post here.)
Loading...