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Friend wherefore art thou come?

Tim71

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Matthew 26:50 has always intrigued me. I just wanted to see how the members interpreted this scripture. I have always read this scripture and thought....... is our Lord showing us a picture of his sovereignty. Jesus knew Judas was going to betray him but he still asks the question Friend wherefore art thou come? Sometimes I think that Jesus was saying Judas I know what you have done but I'm still willing to forgive you.

But then I start thinking Judas was in the plans before the foundations of the earth. Someone had to play his role.

So I come to the conclusion that the question was asked to show the readers that: I'm God I know the beginning from the end. So when I try to harmonize these thoughts it gets very confusing Was Jesus trying to tell us that though I know all"..........even when it comes to a mans decision about eternity. I will still plead and beg man to come to me up to the very end.

Please be considerate when answering. I know I have a lot to learn I have an open mind and I'm willing to learn new interpretations. Just please do not belittle me for pouring out my thoughts
 

Deacon

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We have a variety of translations today. It's a good practice when studying to consult a select few. They are like simple commentaries providing some possibilities within the text.

We find that Matt. 26:50 may be a question or a statement.
In either case it is a rhetorical statement: surely even the disciples with our Lord knew what the band of men, lead by Judas, had come in the night to do.

Interesting that this statement takes place in a garden. Perhaps translators posed the statement as a question to parallel the question asked in the garden of Eden, "Where are you?".
Another rhetorical question! The answer to both leads to guilt and shame.

The only resolution to which is turning to the Savior.

Rob
 

John of Japan

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Matthew 26:50 has always intrigued me. I just wanted to see how the members interpreted this scripture. I have always read this scripture and thought....... is our Lord showing us a picture of his sovereignty. Jesus knew Judas was going to betray him but he still asks the question Friend wherefore art thou come? Sometimes I think that Jesus was saying Judas I know what you have done but I'm still willing to forgive you.

But then I start thinking Judas was in the plans before the foundations of the earth. Someone had to play his role.

So I come to the conclusion that the question was asked to show the readers that: I'm God I know the beginning from the end. So when I try to harmonize these thoughts it gets very confusing Was Jesus trying to tell us that though I know all"..........even when it comes to a mans decision about eternity. I will still plead and beg man to come to me up to the very end.

Please be considerate when answering. I know I have a lot to learn I have an open mind and I'm willing to learn new interpretations. Just please do not belittle me for pouring out my thoughts
First of all, it didn't have to be Judas to betray Jesus. The prophecy was that it would be a friend (Ps. 41:9), but a name and position (one of the 12) were not prophesied. It could have been one of the 70.

Secondly, the Greek word "friend" in the question of Jesus was hetairos, not the usual word for friend such as in John 15 when Jesus called His disciples "friends," but merely a greeting. So in His question to Judas, Jesus was subtly disowning him and treating Judas almost like a stranger. This may be what convicted Judas and motivated his return of the 30 pieces of silver and his suicide.
 
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