From Jesuit to Jew-Hatin'

You're on! um, providing they don't all have to be done at in one sitting.

My own Princess Dog is snoozing beside me - it's too wet out for Her Daintiness.

 

During the civil rights struggle, I saw the same arguments.

"If you don't hate blacks, youi must hate white people."

Now it's "If you don't hate Muslims, you must hate Jews."

Same motivation.

 

I bet almost all so called Christian schools are or soon will be under this same attack. It is a perfectly logical and apparently very effective method of infiltration.

 

I agree however in this case it appears the school is abandoning it's foundational teaching for that of it's Muslim supporters. There has to be more to this story, I wonder what will surface.

 

I've never seen an honest analysis of Jewish vs Christian theology. The Church forgets that if there is any historical truth in Christianity there must be current truth in Judaism. That Judaism could be God's plan ( a unified theology) without the need of historical Christianity but Christianity is nothing without historical Judaism.

 

Possibly, it's the Catholic recognition that God can work though any faith to reach people.

We don't think that Muslims are necessarily going to Hell, and so we don't fear or hate them, or feel an overriding need to convert them, even where it's clearly not possible.

Conversion for us, should be an inner change. The idea is that our lives should be sufficient to convince them as it was to convince the spy sent to live among them, by a Roman emperor. He wrote back that their example had led him to give up his former life and to become one of them.

 

I was not aware that Catholics did not accept Christ as "the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

By "any faith to reah people" do you mean that faithful Muslims who deny Christ reach God through their religion?

What portion of the catechism covers this working through any faith?

 

We do. We just recognize that nobody has Him in a box. He can save as He wishes, and that includes non-Christians.

 

Thank you for this half of the question. Now would you be kind enough to cite your source? Biblical, papal?

 

The most colorful and forceful of Jesus's statements on this is the parable of the Good Samaritan. Samaritans were hated as heretics. The Parable is not, as many suppose, that one must do good deeds.

Rather, when He compared the Samaritan who a theologically correct Levite, He told His listeners to be as the Samaritan was. What was important, Jesus was telling us, was loving God and applying that to one's neighbor, rather than being right about theology.

Acts 10:35: But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him.

God is omnipotent, and He claims that He will save who He will. I think He means it.

 

Thank you for the response. I agree with most of it. However, Peter begins his remarks in verse 34 and continues to verse 43, without which, I believe, the 'sermon' would be incomplete.

Just as, without Christ, we would be incomplete.

I also take to heart verse 42 -- and for that cause would explain / witness / preach / offend, whichever word one would consider appropriate -- Christ is the way, the truth, and the life. No man comes to the Father but by Him. I believe this to be an absolute truth, even as He is.

I apologize to others for hijacking the thread for this clarification.

 

[quote[Thank you for the response. I agree with most of it. However, Peter begins his remarks in verse 34 and continues to verse 43, without which, I believe, the 'sermon' would be incomplete.

Just as, without Christ, we would be incomplete. [/quote]

Yep. But again, Jesus died for all men, not just those who happen to be lucky enough to be evangelized.

True. But it means that He is not just available to people who have the right theology. He's available to anyone who seeks Him.

Hence, the understanding that one does not have to be any particular religion at all to be saved.

 

From Jesuit to Jew-hatin'?
An interesting title, considering that the Jesuits leading the Inquisition in Spain and Portugal {attempted to} force all the Jews to leave those countries, confiscated their property, etc. In Portugal they forcibly took children from their parents to give them to a Catholic family to raise. Many Jewish parents killed their children and themselves rather than subject to this horrible thing. The "secret Jews" in Portugal still live in fear of a renewed Inquisiton, and are afraid to openly declare their Jewishness.

 

We shall not find agreement here. Acceptance of Jesus Christ as the way, the truth and the life does not appear to be a belief of devout Muslims, Hindus, Bhuddists, etc. While Christ is available to anyone who seeks Him (undeniably!), acceptance is a requirement.

Again, apologies for sidetracking from OP. If you believe a response is required, perhaps a different thread?

 

And the self-proclaimed Christian Klan in the United States attacked Jews, destroyed their property and drove them from their homes. Recently, in Alabama, teachers and admniistrators who called themselves Christians persecuted Jewish children in the public schools so viciously that a court order was required to stop it.

That doesn't mean that Christians hate Jews. It just means that some people have not been good Christians.

 

Guess not. Doesn't change anything though. No one has a corner on God.

True. But as in the case of a North Korean farmer who accepted Him without even knowing Who He was, until he escaped to the south, salvation doesn't depend on theology.