"Gift of Helps" - God's Word, New and Improved by KJV Translators

Which edition is the right translation?

 

“And God hath set some in the Church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healing, helpes in government, diversities of tongues." (1 Corinthians 12:28, KJV 1611).

I'm not a Greek scholar by any means.

Both words are used only once in the NT (in 1 Corinthians. 12:28).
There are no commas in the Greek. The adverb for “in” is not in the Greek.
It must have been corrected rather early on in the process.
By 1706 Matthew Henry’s commentary comments on them as two separate gifts.

Helps (Strongs No: 484) and means, to aid, help, assist or minister. (support for this as a separate gift may be found in Romans 12:7… service).

Government (Strongs No: 2941) administration, managing, organizers, leadership.

Rob

 

The term "false doctrine" is so inflamitory.

If you are so concerned about pointing fingers, learn (teach and preach) the original language so no mistake can be made. The translators of the KJV wrote:

Their words speak to their humility and service. Oh that we would be so humble.

Rob

 

"This may be supposed to be some cause, why the Translation of the Seventy was allowed to pass for current. Notwithstanding, though it was commended generally, yet it did not fully content the learned, no not of the Jews."

And..."It is certain, that that Translation was not so sound and so perfect, but that it needed in many places correction; and who had been so sufficient for this work as the Apostles or Apostolic men?"

And..."that the Seventy were Interpreters, they were not Prophets; they did many things well, as learned men; but yet as men they stumbled and fell, one while through oversight, another while through ignorance, yea, sometimes they may be noted to add to the Original, and sometimes to take from it; which made the Apostles to leave them many times, when they left the Hebrew, and to deliver the sense thereof according to the truth of the word, as the spirit gave them utterance. This may suffice touching the Greek Translations of the Old Testament."
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Perhaps when quoting the Translators of the Av, one should be entirely accurate. These quotes show what they thought of the LXX.

As to the OP? The charge that the AV translators played "fast and loose" with the Scriptures is erroneous. Bordering on slander.

In HIS service;
Jim

 

They are both true via "advanced revelation".

HankD

 

It seems quite strange that men would teach dispensationalism and then turn around and profess to be amazed that God would allow something as trivial as this to exist for a mere 239 years. I don't know why the same God, Who corrected the early errata with a relatively rapid succession of editions, allowed this to stand for a much longer time. But, I know that He has promised to preserve His Word and I am not about to criticize Him on the matter. And, remember, it is He Whom you are criticizing, not men.

 

I, too, am a dispensationalist. Did not mean to infer otherwise.

 

Deacon:

Amen to that.

I am not a KJVO person, but, I heard the gospel first among KJVO's and read the Word in KJV Bibles. Still do, though I would oftentimes refer to Young's Literal Translation.

KJVO adherents are simply people who have been misled into that doctrine by the leaders of that sect.

If you're looking for someone to hang, go for the originals.

 

Would the one in the congregation with the gift of helps be the one that sets up the church building for the Sunday morning service, taking care of the air conditioning settings and so on?