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Give Iraqi Christians a refuge Christians bring them to the United States

Discussion in '2006 Archive' started by ASLANSPAL, Oct 13, 2006.

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  1. ASLANSPAL

    ASLANSPAL New Member

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    http://archive.gulfnews.com/articles/06/10/13/10074447.html


    snippet:Iraqi Christians flee to Syria

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    Damascus: More than 35,000 Iraqi Christians have fled to Syria to escape the violence in their country, the leader of an Iraqi Christian group said yesterday.


    Christians, who make up 3 per cent of Iraq's 26 million people, are leaving because of individual threats from extremists and the general deterioration of security in Iraq, said Emmanuel Khoshaba, the Syrian head of the Assyrian and Democratic Movement
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    My comment: I think sooner or later they may not be so protected as well in Syria...would like to see the Christian community rally with ideas and consensus to bring them to the United States. I have talked about this before in long ago threads...something should be done ...a united Christian community could handle 35,000 Iraqi Christians with no problem.
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    #1 ASLANSPAL, Oct 13, 2006
  2. Joshua Rhodes

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    I'm actually in favor of helping these Iraqi believers, if it could be pulled off safely and effectively. How would we go about getting them to the USA legally, and ensuring that we are safe in the process?
     
    #2 Joshua Rhodes, Oct 13, 2006
  3. ASLANSPAL

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    Solution give them refuge and welcome them they are a minority

    Pass quick legislation to give them status as persecuted group and be allowed entry into the United States...since we may be part of the cause(a valid debate) of them being in danger.

    Major denominations and ministries agreeing on paper and supporting this emergency legislation.

    Major denominations and ministries actually footing the bill to prep for their arrival and giving them refuge and helping them intergrate into community.

    the way I see it they are a severe minority in an area that could turn on them and slaughter them...and Syria imho is just a bandaid...how long could that last.

    I think if an Iraqi Christian is in danger and is being persecuted they should find quick refuge here in the United States and the way I see it ..it could be facilitated through our government and Christian communities from all denominations and ministry.

    It would be their choice some might choose to stay regardless and die for their faith which is a testimony in and of itself but at the same time they should have a choice.

    35,000 and we now have a population of 300 million and the Christian Church and Ministries in the country are extremely wealthy ...Ronnie Floyd just erected 3 giant crosses down the road for a couple of million...I think we can afford 35,000 Iraqi Chrisitans. imho.
     
    #3 ASLANSPAL, Oct 13, 2006
  4. Not_hard_to_find

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    America did the same for Hungarians decades ago. I remember when Immanuel Baptist in Tulsa sponsored a family and helped them settle. It was done again for Cubans, churches opened their doors and families their homes.

    How was it done then? Let's get it done again.
     
    #4 Not_hard_to_find, Oct 13, 2006
  5. El_Guero

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    I would be for letting some in . . . but, I am against letting in anymore muslims.

    And I think that Christians already there that speak the language make better missionaries than we do . . . so, I am not sure that I want all of them to be let in the US . . .

    :jesus:
     
    #5 El_Guero, Oct 15, 2006
  6. The Galatian

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    Won't happen. That would be an admission by the Administration that the invasion made life more dangerous for Christians in Iraq.

    Not the sort of thing that they would allow just before elections. Maybe afterwards.
     
    #6 The Galatian, Oct 15, 2006
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    can we get these Iraqi Christians to Mexico?

    Then, they can just walk across...
     
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  8. Forever settled in heaven

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    anything's better than Canada, where they'll check ur support for same-sex marriage n diversity/multicultural IQ at the airport :laugh:
     
    #8 Forever settled in heaven, Oct 15, 2006
  9. Joshua Rhodes

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    :applause: :laugh:
     
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  10. ZeroTX

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    If they made it to Mexico, they would be fine. As you probably know, these Christians, as with most in the world, are primarily Orthodox and Catholic Christians, so they wouldn't have much interest in what's offered in a fundamentalist protestant church. It wouldn't resemble their worship, handed down from the Early Church, and it would lack the Eucharist, deleted from fundamentalism along with ornamental churches and anything remotely Catholic/Orthodox in appearance.

    -Michael
     
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  11. El_Guero

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    And there are large populations of the different 'orthodox' churches in Mexico . . .

    Michael that ain't bad for a houstonian . . .

    Wayne


     
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    Indeed, there appear to be a number of canonical Orthodox dioceses/parishes in Mexico, which would serve the needs of the Orthodox Christians from the Middle East. For the Catholics, the presence of the Church in Mexico is substantial of course. There would certainly be no persecution for being a Christian, and arguably, even the poorest part of Mexico is better than the Middle East. I just imagine the Middle East being a terrible place to live in these times.

    Houstonian? Well, sorta. ;) I live in Spring (a formerly rural town, now a suburb) and I'm quite ready to get out of the big city!! Know of any SE or Central Texas suburban or rural schools in need of an Assistant Principal? :)

    Where ya from? I've lived in several parts of the great and awesome state of Texas :)

    -Michael
     
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  13. ASLANSPAL

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    nothing personal but back to topic ..update

    http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=17952

    snippet:Iraqi Christians live in fear of death squads

    Country’s chaotic situation decreases Church attendance, Pope’s insulting remarks add further complications. BAGHDAD - Julie Carlo, 36, has tried to leave Iraq for Jordan several times to be with her parents, but hasn't been allowed in by the Jordanian authorities. The reason for her desperation to leave is her religion. She is Christian and has been threatened by Islamic militants.

    “Recently, life for Christians in Iraq has turned into a horror movie,” Carlo said. “I will leave everything here [and] even if I do not have anything to eat there [Jordan], it is better to die from hunger than be beheaded.”
    Carlo is one of thousands of people from the minority group who are receiving death threats and are living in fear. Threats have increased since Pope Benedict XVI, head of the Catholic Church, made a speech on 12 September that included what were perceived to be disparaging comments about Islam. This caused fury among segments of the Muslim community worldwide.
    The repercussions of the Pope’s speech continue to reverberate in Iraq, bringing a new level of threat to an already shrinking Christian population. Although the Pope apologised soon after for the comments he made, the damage is seemingly irreparable in Iraq. “There were cases of Christians being killed but it was part of the ongoing violence in our country and not a direct threat against our community,” Carlo said. “We have been clearly advised through letters and intimidating leaflets that all Christians should leave Iraq because the punishment is going to be worse in coming days.”

    http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/44413.aspx

    http://www.aina.org/news/20061016110228.htm


    Why aren't alarm bells going off in the major denominations and ministries in this country???
     
    #13 ASLANSPAL, Oct 27, 2006
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