God Deals With All People in Righteousness

[KenH]

“But with righteousness shall He judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and He shall smite the earth with the rod of His mouth, and with the breath of His lips shall He slay the wicked.” (Isaiah 11:4)

The Lord God, the great Judge of heaven and earth, always deals with people (elect and non-elect) in righteousness (i.e. strict and perfect justice). When He saves His chosen ones, He saves them by His grace that “reigns through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ the Lord” (Romans 5:21). Christ, having borne their sins on His own account to the cross satisfied God’s justice and as their Surety, Substitute, and Redeemer. Their salvation is based upon the propitiation that Christ attained for them insuring their salvation unto final glory. God causes them to know their spiritual poverty and humbles them to submit to Christ as the Lord their Righteousness.

When God judges and condemns the wicked (the non-elect who stand before Him without Christ), He does so by the standard of that same perfect righteousness that Christ wrought out upon the cross – “Because He hath appointed a day, in the which He will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom He hath ordained; whereof He hath given assurance unto all men, in that He hath raised Him from the dead” (Acts 17:31).

How can I know whether or not Christ’s righteousness will be my salvation or my condemnation? According to God’s Word, it will be condemnation for all who live and die in unbelief seeking to establish their own righteousness by their works (Romans 10:1-3). These are sinners who reject Christ as the one and only way of righteousness before God. It will be eternal salvation and glory for those who believe in Christ and submit to Him as their only righteousness (His righteousness imputed) before God (Romans 10:4; cf. 4:4-6; 2 Corinthians 5:20-21). May the Lord give us faith to believe!

—Pastor Bill Parker

- from the April 6, 2025, bulletin of Eager Avenue Grace Church, Albany, Georgia

 

[Silverhair]

“But with righteousness shall He judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and He shall smite the earth with the rod of His mouth, and with the breath of His lips shall He slay the wicked.” (Isaiah 11:4)

The Lord God, the great Judge of heaven and earth, always deals with people (elect and non-elect) in righteousness (i.e. strict and perfect justice). When He saves His chosen ones, He saves them by His grace that “reigns through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ the Lord” (Romans 5:21). Christ, having borne their sins on His own account to the cross satisfied God’s justice and as their Surety, Substitute, and Redeemer. Their salvation is based upon the propitiation that Christ attained for them insuring their salvation unto final glory. God causes them to know their spiritual poverty and humbles them to submit to Christ as the Lord their Righteousness.

When God judges and condemns the wicked (the non-elect who stand before Him without Christ), He does so by the standard of that same perfect righteousness that Christ wrought out upon the cross – “Because He hath appointed a day, in the which He will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom He hath ordained; whereof He hath given assurance unto all men, in that He hath raised Him from the dead” (Acts 17:31).

How can I know whether or not Christ’s righteousness will be my salvation or my condemnation? According to God’s Word, it will be condemnation for all who live and die in unbelief seeking to establish their own righteousness by their works (Romans 10:1-3). These are sinners who reject Christ as the one and only way of righteousness before God. It will be eternal salvation and glory for those who believe in Christ and submit to Him as their only righteousness (His righteousness imputed) before God (Romans 10:4; cf. 4:4-6; 2 Corinthians 5:20-21). May the Lord give us faith to believe!

—Pastor Bill Parker

- from the April 6, 2025, bulletin of Eager Avenue Grace Church, Albany, Georgia

Pastor Bill Parker writes about salvation like an Arminian.

 

[KenH]

Pastor Bill Parker writes about salvation like an Arminian.

 

[Silverhair]

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That seems to be the only way that the calvinist/reformed can present a salvation message without making it sound like a horror show.

 

[KenH]

That seems to be the only way that the calvinist/reformed can present a salvation message without making it sound like a horror show.

In other words, Silverhair, you have nothing to back up your statement in post #2 above.

 

[Silverhair]

In other words, Silverhair, you have nothing to back up your statement in post #2 above.

Read his comments. He writes like an arminian not a calvinist/reformed.

The Lord God, the great Judge of heaven and earth, always deals with people (elect and non-elect) in righteousness (i.e. strict and perfect justice).

Rom 3:21 But now apart from the Law the righteousness of God has been manifested, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets,
Rom 3:22 even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction;
Rom 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
Rom 3:24 being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus;
Rom 3:25 whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed;
Rom 3:26 for the demonstration, I say, of His righteousness at the present time, so that He would be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

Christ, having borne their sins on His own account to the cross satisfied God’s justice and as their Surety, Substitute, and Redeemer

Joh 3:14 "As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up;
Joh 3:15 so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life.

Their salvation is based upon the propitiation that Christ attained for them insuring their salvation unto final glory.

1Jn 2:2 and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.

1Jn 4:10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

God causes them to know their spiritual poverty and humbles them to submit to Christ as the Lord their Righteousness.

Joh 16:8 "And He, when He comes, will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment;
Joh 16:9 concerning sin, because they do not believe in Me;

How can I know whether or not Christ’s righteousness will be my salvation or my condemnation? According to God’s Word, it will be condemnation for all who live and die in unbelief seeking to establish their own righteousness by their works

Joh 3:18 "He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

These are sinners who reject Christ as the one and only way of righteousness before God.

Act 4:12 "And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved."

His wording could use some improvement but over all he does write like an Arminian.
He just left out man's free will. God does not drag people to heaven but He has provided the way to heaven.

Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;

Eph 1:13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,

Rom 10:8 But what does it say? "THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART"—that is, the word of faith which we are preaching,
Rom 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
Rom 10:10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.

Rom 10:13 for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED."

 

[KenH]

Read his comments. He writes like an arminian not a calvinist/reformed.

I usually listen to three messages per week by Bill Parker - his Bible study and his sermon at Eager Avenue Grace Church, and his TV program, and also I listen to him in person deliver three messages at the yearly Bible conference at Grace Baptist Church of Ruston, Louisiana. I also attend a weekly Bible study on Wednesday nights via Zoom where he is pretty much the main person contributing to the discussion.

I can assure you that he is a firm proclaimer of the gospel of God's sovereign grace in Christ Jesus and His finished work on behalf of those who were given to Him, before the world began, to be their Surety and to pay for the sins of the elect(their sins having been imputed to Him to pay their sin debt) and to have His perfect righteousness imputed to them.

 

[Charlie24]

“But with righteousness shall He judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and He shall smite the earth with the rod of His mouth, and with the breath of His lips shall He slay the wicked.” (Isaiah 11:4)

The Lord God, the great Judge of heaven and earth, always deals with people (elect and non-elect) in righteousness (i.e. strict and perfect justice). When He saves His chosen ones, He saves them by His grace that “reigns through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ the Lord” (Romans 5:21). Christ, having borne their sins on His own account to the cross satisfied God’s justice and as their Surety, Substitute, and Redeemer. Their salvation is based upon the propitiation that Christ attained for them insuring their salvation unto final glory. God causes them to know their spiritual poverty and humbles them to submit to Christ as the Lord their Righteousness.

When God judges and condemns the wicked (the non-elect who stand before Him without Christ), He does so by the standard of that same perfect righteousness that Christ wrought out upon the cross – “Because He hath appointed a day, in the which He will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom He hath ordained; whereof He hath given assurance unto all men, in that He hath raised Him from the dead” (Acts 17:31).

How can I know whether or not Christ’s righteousness will be my salvation or my condemnation? According to God’s Word, it will be condemnation for all who live and die in unbelief seeking to establish their own righteousness by their works (Romans 10:1-3). These are sinners who reject Christ as the one and only way of righteousness before God. It will be eternal salvation and glory for those who believe in Christ and submit to Him as their only righteousness (His righteousness imputed) before God (Romans 10:4; cf. 4:4-6; 2 Corinthians 5:20-21). May the Lord give us faith to believe!

—Pastor Bill Parker

- from the April 6, 2025, bulletin of Eager Avenue Grace Church, Albany, Georgia

I agree with Silverhair, Mr. Parker sounds like a fundamentalist preacher.

"These are sinners who reject Christ as the one and only way of righteousness before God."

If Mr. Parker is a Calvinist, he made the grade by the skin of his teeth.

 

[KenH]

"These are sinners who reject Christ as the one and only way of righteousness before God."

Obviously, those whom God reprobated before the world began "will reject Christ as the one and only way of righteousness before God."

 

[Charlie24]

Obviously, those whom God reprobated before the world began "will reject Christ as the one and only way of righteousness before God."

So you admit man has the ability to reject Christ.

Man had no way of knowing he was reprobated by God before the world began. Yet the preacher says they rejected Him.

That's a start, Brother Ken.

 

[Silverhair]

Obviously, those whom God reprobated before the world began "will reject Christ as the one and only way of righteousness before God."

How is that love in any since of the word? Does your bible not contain these verses?
Joh 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
Joh 3:17 "For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.

1Ti 2:3 This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
1Ti 2:4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
1Ti 2:6 who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony given at the proper time.

So what you are telling me is that your version of God is disingenuous, or in other words He lied.

It's either that or your theology is warped or the teachers you listen to do not understand the bible and you should not be listening to them.

 

[Charlie24]

How is that love in any since of the word? Does your bible not contain these verses?
Joh 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
Joh 3:17 "For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.

1Ti 2:3 This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
1Ti 2:4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
1Ti 2:6 who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony given at the proper time.

So what you are telling me is that your version of God is disingenuous, or in other words He lied.

It's either that or your theology is warped or the teachers you listen to do not understand the bible and you should not be listening to them.

The part about the teachers they listen to would be the most concerning.

 

[KenH]

So you admit man has the ability to reject Christ.

Those whom God reprobated before the world from eternity will not be regenerated and will not be given the gift of faith in Christ alone and will not be given the gift of repentance of dead works.

Now, if you, Charlie24, wish to call that an "ability", then I think that you have a rather strange definition of ability.

 

[Silverhair]

The part about the teachers they listen to would be the most concerning.

I agree. From what I have seen of Ken's comments he does not seem willing to go against what they say. He just keeps giving the same old party line.

“DISCERNMENT is not simply telling the difference between what is Right and Wrong; rather, it is the difference between Right and almost right.” Charles Spurgeon

 

[KenH]

So what you are telling me is that your version of God is disingenuous, or in other words He lied.

No.

Your version of the god of your imagination is pretty much like the "superheroes" in modern day Marvel movies - your god can fail, not always achieve his goals, be resisted by his very own creation.

You and I have already previously debated soteriology left, right, up, down, around the sides, and up the middle. If anyone wants to read that, they should search for it on the board. I am not going to plow all that same ground with you again.

 

[Silverhair]

Those whom God reprobated before the world from eternity will not be regenerated and will not be given the gift of faith in Christ alone and will not be given the gift of repentance of dead works.

Now, if you, Charlie24, wish to call that an "ability", then I think that you have a rather strange definition of ability.

All you shown in your post is that God is a liar. Or more to the case your theological view is completely wrong.

The ability God has given man is the ability to freely choose to trust in or reject Him.

In case your wondering

Ability: power or capacity to do or act physically, mentally, legally, morally, financially, etc.

 

[KenH]

All you shown in your post is that God is a liar.

Nope.

Romans 3:
3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?
4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written,
That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings,
And mightest overcome when thou art judged.

 

[Charlie24]

Those whom God reprobated before the world from eternity will not be regenerated and will not be given the gift of faith in Christ alone and will not be given the gift of repentance of dead works.

Now, if you, Charlie24, wish to call that an "ability", then I think that you have a rather strange definition of ability.

Rome wasn't built in a day, Ken. It takes time.

Let's just keep tossing it about and let it work itself out.

 

[KenH]

Ability: power or capacity to do or act physically, mentally, legally, morally, financially, etc.

Except that in the soteriological discussions on this board, it is my understanding, that the debate over "ability" is more along the lines of "libertarian free will", that fallen man can choose of his own power to be regenerated, to develop faith in the finished work of Christ alone, and to develop repentance of dead works.

 

[KenH]

Rome wasn't built in a day, Ken. It takes time.

Let's just keep tossing it about and let it work itself out.

My hope is 100% in Christ alone. I don't need to "keep tossing" the ground of my salvation about.