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Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by J.C., May 21, 2003.

  1. J.C.

    J.C. New Member

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    "Wow, you're taking a test tomorrow! Well, good luck!".

    "You're going for a job interview. Good luck."

    "Good luck with the soccer game Jason"

    How many times do we loosly say it? What are we, as born-again, God's-promises-believing, God's supply-trusting believers doing when we tell another person (believers and non-believers) "good luck"?

    Aren't we passing on an opportunity to give God glory when we could say "I'll pray for you (and do it)" or "God bless you" instead of leaving their "fortune" to "chance"?

    Anyway, good luck to you today... :rolleyes:

    Comments?
     
  2. RomOne16

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    This is a phrase that really bothers me. That, and rediculous things like finger crossing etc. Superstitious beliefs shouldn't be given merit by believers.

    I really think that many believers use it without even thinking about the meaning behind it. That's why I always take the time, when I hear it used, to explain that there is no such thing as luck. All blessings come from God, and if you desire a blessing, you should pray about it. If it's Gods will to bless, He will.

    In matters such as test taking, etc. preparation is the key. Don't expect prayer or anything else to bail you out if you haven't studied (that's what I tell my kids). :D

    Nope, no such thing as luck around here.
     
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    I agree RomOne16, but I do believe there are times when opportunity is not available for thorough preparation and that God will bless according to His Purpose.

    Bro. Dallas Eaton
     
  4. following-Him

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    Yes, it is a phrase that bothers me also, and I hear it used by other Christians too. I just say I am a Christian and I do not believe in luck, I believe in Jesus.
     
  5. stubbornkelly

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    It doesn't bother me a bit. I think that, for many if not most people, it's more of a slang for "I wish you well" than anything having to do with superstition. I still tell people to "break a leg" before a performance, which is the theatre equivalent of "good luck," but actual luck doesn't enter into it.

    When I'm hearing it, I take it in the spirit in which it was meant and graciously say "thank you."
     
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    I never use the expression, "Good luck", but you know, those replacement expressions, "God bless you", "How are you?", "Best wishes" and so on, can be just as meaningless. It is not so much the words as the intent behind the words. We can use any of them rather loosely, can't we?

    Cheers, (oops! there I go again)

    Jim
     
  7. J.C.

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    You are right, Jim. Those other expressions can be meaningless as well, just a phrase that fits the moment.

    I'm with you, StubbornKelly, if someone wishes me "good luck", I do simply say thank you normally if I don't know the person well. If it is a good friend who is also a Christian, I might say "thanks for wishing me good luck, but please also pray for me since it will do more good."

    Saying "good luck" is just a good-natured habit by most people with good intentions, but it doesn't, in any way, give God any credit for His provision over our lives.

    For me, I don't say it to others because I want to be "separated" from the rest of the world by my speech. I want them to know that this guy does more than wish that, by some chance, good fortune comes your way, but will intercede on their behalf before the Creator and sustainer of this world. My sole reason for being adament about this behavior is with hopes that they will easily recognize me for my faith and might turn to me for spiritual concerns.

    Please understand that I'm not trying to come off as "holier-than-thou", it's just a conviction I have and was curious if others shared.

    May God Bless you in all that you do that is for Him,
    James
     
  8. Gina B

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    It doesn't bother me at all, and I use it. I don't intentionally use it to leave God out, I'll often even say "Good luck, I'll be praying for you".
    It's just a thing people say when they mean they hope things that aren't of major consequence go okay, or it's used sarcastically.
    Gina
     
  9. donnA

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    "Good Luck" leaves out the possibility of God acting in a persons life. If good luck doesn't happen to you, then you've got nothing on your side, everything is chance, nothing planned, nothing has a particular purpose.
     
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    I agree with Stubborn Kelly and Gina. The phrase does not bother me because I have always considered it as someone wishing me well and those same people are probably praying for me.

    I also tell people that I will be thinking about them when I mean I will be praying for them.

    I don't think that I am leaving God out, but this is food for thought. Maybe a non-Christian might think that God is being left out.

    I know I have heard the comment...I don't believe in luck, I believe in God. Again it is a person's interpretation of the word. If one thinks that things are left to chance, then he is wrong. God is in control.
     
  11. Baptist in Richmond

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    Come on, folks.
    Saying "Good luck" does not make me superstitious.
    Similarly, saying "Holy cow" does not make me a pagan.
     
  12. J.C.

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    I do think that this topic, which I started, isn't one of earth-shattering importance, more of a curiosity. It seems that some feel that there is nothing wrong with saying to someone "good luck" while others, like myself, think that an opportunity to express the power of prayer is being passed up by saying it.

    It is true that the things we say and do are important when it comes to what people think of us as Christians. It is also true that our best hope we offer to people is that we will intercede for them through prayer (whether they know it or not).

    For me, personally, I want to claim the power of prayer over someone when they ask for help or declares that they are excited/anxious about some area in their life.

    Saying "good luck" to someone doesn't necessarily make YOU supersticious because you do, in fact, believe in the power of prayer, but saying "I'll pray for you" removes all doubt in THAT persons mind that you aren't supersticious, but a believer in the power of prayer.

    What message do you want people to read in your life the next time you are presented with the option of offering prayer for their need or simply saying "Good luck"?
    :confused:
     
  13. Gina B

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    J.C., I'm having a hard time envisioning me grabbing someone's hand, looking deep into their eyes, and telling them I'll pray for them when they tell me they're on their way to the store to see if they'll give them their money back for a loaf of bread that was stale.
    Gina
     
  14. J.C.

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    Gina, for me, if I was in that situation (needing to return stale bread) myself, I would pray about it as I made my way to the store. I am always (well, some of the time at least :D ) in a spirit of prayer (Colossians 4:2) and pray about "little things" as I go about my day. I pray because I believe God cares about the little stuff and that He can help. For me, not praying about the little stuff is almost like saying "I can handle this myself and don't need your help".

    Being completely honest, I probably wouldn't take their hand, look them in the eye and offer a prayer over stale bread either, but I would be more apt to do so if the situation/concern for them was more serious. You have a good point!
     
  15. Dr. Bob

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    Amen, BIR. But good luck on getting folks on the BB to see that. :rolleyes:

    BTW, I opt not to use the phrase, but only because I find it obnoxious, as bad as "Have a Nice Day" from the folks with little smiley faces at WallyWorld today . . . :eek:
     
  16. Artimaeus

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    On my list of priorities this one ranks really low. But, this is a debate forum for expressing opinion so, here is mine.

    Christians have no business believing in "real" luck but saying "good luck" to someone just expresses to them that you hope things turn out to their liking. It means I believe in luck like the expression "good bye" means I am saying "God be with you". Expressions are merely expressions (In general) and should be taken for what they were intended. When I walk into the lounge at work and announce with a heavy irratated sigh that, "I love my work", there is not a person in the room who doesn't understand what I am saying.
     
  17. Gib

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    Wholly Cow Batman! [​IMG] I sometimes say "break a leg" or "sprang your lung" when talking to soloist or choir members. I don't really want them to break a leg or sprang a lung. [​IMG]
     
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    I certainly accept that phrase and others in the spirit in which it is given, but sometimes, when the circumstances are right, it's kind of fun to respond with "where I come from, we call it a blessing!"

    It gets a grin or a chuckle and if you are already grinning, no offense is taken. And, maybe sometimes....maybe....it will spark a thought in someone.

    A more sincere thing to say than Good Luck, at least from me, runs along the lines of "Go for it, and I'll be waiting to hear what happens!"

    Something like that shows that you are paying attention to what is going on and not just using a pat phrase.
     
  19. Baptist in Richmond

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    J.C. writes:
    &gt;&gt;Saying "good luck" to someone doesn't
    &gt;&gt;necessarily make YOU supersticious because you
    &gt;&gt;do, in fact, believe in the power of prayer,
    &gt;&gt;but saying "I'll pray for you" removes all
    &gt;&gt;doubt in THAT persons mind that you aren't
    &gt;&gt;supersticious, but a believer in the power of prayer.
    &gt;&gt;What message do you want people to read in your
    &gt;&gt;life the next time you are presented with the
    &gt;&gt;option of offering prayer for their need or
    &gt;&gt;simply saying "Good luck"?

    Do you really think that the average person takes any meaning from this widely-used and rarely-noticed expression? In fact, I have never had anyone point this out to me, and I have utilized this statement often in the past. Undoubtedly, this must mean that my testimony to the lost world has been destroyed.
    Seems to me that this is fixating upon the innocuous.
     
  20. Baptist in Richmond

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    Dr. Bob Griffin writes:
    &gt;&gt;Amen, BIR. But good luck on getting folks on
    &gt;&gt;the BB to see that.

    &lt;sound of snare drum "rim shot"&gt;

    Sorry folks, WallyWorld is closed for repairs. [​IMG]
     
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