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Google Watch - Privacy and Commercialism

Discussion in 'Computers & Technology Forum' started by superdave, Mar 14, 2005.

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  1. superdave

    superdave New Member

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    Check out the links from this page. Some of it is hyper-sensitive editorialising, but the facts are scary enough

    www.google-watch.org
     
    #1 superdave, Mar 14, 2005
  2. NaasPreacher (C4K)

    NaasPreacher (C4K) Well-Known Member

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    Nothing on the Internet is private. Don't see why this is any different.

    I love gmail.
     
    #2 NaasPreacher (C4K), Mar 15, 2005
  3. MargoWriter

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    For real. I have nothing to hide . . . except for the fact that I have nothing to hide. :D
     
    #3 MargoWriter, Mar 15, 2005
  4. donnA

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    Everything everywhere that is public record can be found on the internet. Your phone number, house address, how much your house is valued at, who owns it, where you were born. All these things can be found out right in your county of residence, and as public record is available to just about anyone who knows how to find it on the internet.
    There is no such thing as privacy anymore.
     
    #4 donnA, Mar 15, 2005
  5. MargoWriter

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    Stuff I want private stays in my journal or my mind anyway. And some day all that will be worth loads of money after I'm dead and gone . . . Scholars with delight shall delve into my private papers . . . :eek: Just kidding, just kidding.
     
    #5 MargoWriter, Mar 15, 2005
  6. exscentric

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    You are partly right on the delving after your death. My wife has had a lot of fun reading poems and letters from her parents.

    Seems when someone is gone they become interesting :-( too bad we don't get smart before they are gone.
     
    #6 exscentric, Mar 15, 2005
  7. superdave

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    Its not about having nothing to hide, its about making public information that can be used by those who do have something to hide.

    I guess the fact that I work for a company involved in technology for authentication and identity management as well as enabling many of these technologies, that I strongly believe that the technology is running way out in front of our legal system, and corporations are highly suspect in their views of how to use and protect customer, employee, and public data.

    That being said, the CEO of my company once said "You don't have any privacy anyway, get over it"

    My point is there have to be laws and ethics wrapped around some of the technology that is coming, for national and personal security reasons. My only issue with Google is really a technical one, I find much more relevant the searches done by Yahoo or Alexa.
     
    #7 superdave, Mar 17, 2005
  8. superdave

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    My issue with Gmail is an ethical one, and one of google not being honest until California changed their privacy laws. They are selling information based on gmail users email content to third party advertisers, and storing email, or database entries based on email content associated with your identity even after you choose to delete the mail, and cross linking it with their database of everything you have ever searched for using their service. Which is fine I guess, unless you recognize where our Gov't is headed.

    Voltaire said it this way. " It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong"
     
    #8 superdave, Mar 17, 2005
  9. MargoWriter

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    Yeah. So what's to do about it? You can't stop 'em. If people can get away with stuff, they just keep doing it. They don't care if it's wrong or not. :(
     
    #9 MargoWriter, Mar 18, 2005
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    If any of you want to get a gmail address before they go public, let me know. I have several invites to give away.
     
    #10 NaasPreacher (C4K), Mar 18, 2005
  11. Pete

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    I'm in big trouble.....I have a few gmail addresses (with hundreds of invitations to pass along), & I hang around in orkut :eek: [​IMG]

    But oh well, if google want to waste all that effort just to find out I'm a ratbag then good luck to them ;) :D
     
    #11 Pete, Mar 18, 2005
  12. here now

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    What is gmail and why have it?
     
    #12 here now, Mar 18, 2005
  13. Pete

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    #13 Pete, Mar 18, 2005
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    Thanks Pete
     
    #14 here now, Mar 18, 2005
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