GOP 'Sadism': Blunt Talk with Alan Grayson About a Young Mother's Death

[Crabtownboy]

I would not use the word 'sadism', but I might say immoral. What a tragedy. Sad, sad, sad.

Why did Florida's Republicans let a hard-working young mother of three die rather than accept Federal funding which would've provided her with health insurance?

According to Rep. Alan Grayson, that - along with extreme ideology and a certain amount of political expediency - explains why Gov. Florida Gov. Rick Scott, along with a number of his fellow Republican governors, refused to accept ACA funding to expand Medicaid coverage.

"How (else) can you explain it?" asked Grayson in our recent broadcast interview. "Republicans have been blinded by their own ideology."

"Every single member of the State Legislature in Florida has healthcare - every single one of them - and yet they voted to deny that health coverage to almost a million other people."

As Grayson points out in this clip, they also voted to deprive Florida's economy of billions of dollars in federal funding. And now Charlene Dill is dead.

A Harvard study estimates that 8 million people will remain uninsured as a result of this action by 25 governors. The study estimates that this will lead to more than seven thousand unnecessary deaths per year, a rate of roughly 19 people each day. That includes 1,158 deaths per year - or more than three every day - in the state of Florida as the result of Gov. Scott's actions.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rj-eskow/gop-sadism-blunt-talk-wit_b_5162969.html

 

[Bro. Curtis]

I addressed this twisting of facts in another thread.

http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?p=2103657#post2103657


Alan Grayson is a bitter dude. He just got swindled out of more than $20 million, and his wife is divorcing him alleging some pretty dark treatment at the hands of this guy. Between him and Ted Kennedy, and that mayor from San Diego, you'd think women would reconsider any allegiance they have to the democrat party, if they do indeed have one.

Pick better heroes.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Why, if Obamacare is supposed to insure everyone, is there a lower limit on earnings to qualify for subsidies ?

 

[Crabtownboy]

Why, if Obamacare is supposed to insure everyone, is there a lower limit on earnings to qualify for subsidies ?

Address the subject please, the death of this young woman because politicians were playing politics.

Would never have happened in many countries around the world. Where here?

 

[Revmitchell]

Prove they were playing politics. Such a claim speak to motive and intent not behavior. And you cannot prove it.

The truth is Obamacare was built on lies, it was passed in secrecy, and it is propped up by propaganda. All of that can and has been prove.


You however cannot prove your childish claim of playing politics. Just more political demonization. And that is not very honest.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Prove they were playing politics. Such a claim speak to motive and intent not behavior. And you cannot prove it.

The truth is Obamacare was built on lies, it was passed in secrecy, and it is propped up by propaganda. All of that can and has been prove.


You however cannot prove your childish claim of playing politics. Just more political demonization. And that is not very honest.

Stick to the topic. Why did the politicians not accept Obamacare or at least provide healthcare that would have saved her life? This type of needless death would not have happened in many countries around the world.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Address the subject please, the death of this young woman because politicians were playing politics.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Because I disagree with you I'm not addressing the subject ? I've now addressed it twice, and you've ignored both times.

And the woman died of a heart problem.

Would never have happened in many countries around the world. Where here?

I don't know what this means. Where here ? What ?

I'll try again….

Why, if Obamacare is supposed to insure everyone, is there a lower limit on earnings to qualify for subsidies ?

 

[Alcott]

I would not use the word 'sadism', but I might say immoral. What a tragedy. Sad, sad, sad.

Yes or No: Are you in favor of legislating morals?

 

[Crabtownboy]

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Because I disagree with you I'm not addressing the subject ? I've now addressed it twice, and you've ignored both times.

So you believe it is fine that this young woman died? That is the topic and you say you disagree with me.

I don't know what this means. Where here ? What ?

In the Czech Republic, Hungary, Sweden, Norway, England, France, Germany, Netherlands, Spain, Italy, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Switzerland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Poland just to name a few.

Why, if Obamacare is supposed to insure everyone, is there a lower limit on earnings to qualify for subsidies ?

Off the thread topic. Start a thread if you want to discuss this subject.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

So you believe it is fine that this young woman died? That is the topic and you say you disagree with me.

No, C.T.Boy. The subject of this thread is how politics killed her. Don't try to weasel out of it, now. And you can tell yourself any lie you want to about how I feel about the woman. I simply won't engage in that B.S..

In the Czech Republic, Hungary, Sweden, Norway, England, France, Germany, Netherlands, Spain, Italy, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Switzerland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Poland just to name a few.

Name a few what ? I didn't ask anything about those places, nor are they on-topic.

Off the thread topic. Start a thread if you want to discuss this subject.

On-topic, because that question is based in information included in your O/P. Now kindly answer it.

Why, if Obamacare is supposed to insure everyone, is there a lower limit on earnings to qualify for subsidies ?

 

[Revmitchell]

Stick to the topic. Why did the politicians not accept Obamacare or at least provide healthcare that would have saved her life? This type of needless death would not have happened in many countries around the world.

Hey bub, I am addressing your words in this thread. If I am off topic then I am only following you. Let me know, are we both off topic or not? If I am we both are.

 

[just-want-peace]

I would give my lottery winnings to see Crabby on the witness stand with Perry Mason questioning him; T'would be very interesting to see what would come of his "OFF TOPIC" defense to virtually every question asked of him! :smilewinkgrin::smilewinkgrin:

 

[Revmitchell]

In the Czech Republic, Hungary, Sweden, Norway, England, France, Germany, Netherlands, Spain, Italy, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Switzerland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Poland just to name a few.

Is this post on topic?

 

[Crabtownboy]

She should be alive.

This 32 Year Old Woman is Dead Because the Republican Party Didn’t Want Obamacare to Save Her

http://iacknowledge.net/this-32-yea...lican-party-didnt-want-obamacare-to-save-her/

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Why, if Obamacare is supposed to insure everyone, is there a lower limit on earnings to qualify for subsidies ?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

When did Florida refuse this money ?


Because the link you provided says it's been "years" since she's been treated.


Stop the lies, C.T.Boy..

 

[Revmitchell]

This 32 Year Old Woman is Dead Because the Republican Party Didn’t Want Obamacare to Save Her

Whenever crabby gets mad he posts falsehoods like this.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

…..Here are a few of the questions none of the left-wing articles and diatribes I saw addressed:

Dill, described as a single mother in most articles, actually was married (in fact, Dill was not her married name, but I'm sticking with "Dill" for this story for the sake of the family's privacy). Was Dill's reported $9,000 annual income (some stories said $11K) the family income, or hers alone? The stories imply it was hers alone.
If Medicaid had been expanded in Florida, would Dill have qualified, given that any income her husband earns would have been taken into consideration?
What was Dill's actual, legal cause of death and why do none of the stories report it?
What are the unnamed medications Dill allegedly would have been taking had she had Medicaid coverage? What is the certainty that these medications would have prevented her death? Would Medicaid have covered them? What did they cost?
Why do many, if not all, of the stories fail to mention that the state of Florida has a program to help people who are ill and uninsured, but whose income falls above Medicaid's eligibility levels? If Dill had a life-threatening condition that could have been fixed with medication, and could not afford to pay for the drug or drugs herself, did she apply for help from this program?
Pharmaceutical companies have programs to help low-income people receive medications they otherwise cannot afford. Did Dill apply for help from this source, from charities, from other family members or elsewhere?…..

http://www.conservativeblog.org/amy...ries-about-the-death-of-charlene-dill-le.html

 

[Crabtownboy]

She should be alive. But politicians played politics and cost her her life.

Uninsured woman with 3 jobs dies because Florida refused Medicaid expansion

Sometimes it really sucks to say, "I told you so." The Supreme Court created an "insurance gap" when it ruled that states don't have to accept Medicaid expansion. In states that refused expansion, people in this gap are royally screwed. And now, in Florida, Charlene Dill has paid the ultimate price for this political screwing over of the poor. Anything but "lazy," she worked three jobs as a single mother. She had a documented heart condition that was treatable, but could not afford to go to the doctor. And today, she's dead, and if Governor Rick Scott had accepted Medicaid expansion -- like he originally indicated he would -- Charlene's three children would not be orphans.

 

[Revmitchell]

But politicians played politics and cost her her life.

Playing politics is about motive. How do you know their motive. Prove they played politics.