Gov. Jeb Bush asks black preacher to "step down"

LadyEagle · Jul 12, 2006

The Rev. O'Neal Dozier, a controversial member of the Broward Judicial Nominating Committee, has resigned the post after he said Gov. Jeb Bush's office asked him to step down.

Dozier, whose recent comments about Islam in a news release and on a radio talk show sparked outrage among Muslims, said Monday he did not talk to Bush, but he said the governor's office was unhappy with his remarks. The committee, which Dozier has been on since 2001, nominates judges in South Florida.

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Dozier was unapologetic for his comments and said he regrets that he was not able to speak his mind as a political appointee.

"I don't see the crime I committed,'' he said. "We're fighting for freedom in Iraq. I guess there's an exception to that when you accept an appointment.''

In references to the war in Iraq and the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on New York City, Dozier said, "Troops are being killed by Muslims" and "The Twin Towers were blown up by Muslims."

Dozier is a prominent black Republican who has recruited blacks to the GOP and advised President Bush. He was nominated to the judicial screening committee in 2001, and Gov. Bush reappointed him two years later. The governor also spoke at Dozier's church on Martin Luther King Jr. Day in 2003.
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http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-cdozierjul11,0,6643659.story?coll=sfla-news-broward

Who's calling the shots here? It's obvious. CAIR is involved - again.

http://www.anti-cair-net.org/

The Galatian · Jul 13, 2006

The Bush family has long and involved connections with various Arab power-brokers.

Why would they be expected to tolerate someone who criticized Islam?

Daisy · Jul 13, 2006

It seems that Moslems also live in Florida. I can see how Jeb Bush would want his appointee to not discriminate against certain residents there, at least not so loudly.

Sun-Sentinel said:

In a news release late last month, Dozier called Islam "a cult'' and said the mosque's plans have residents in the predominantly "black Christian neighborhood" feeling less safe and secure.

"Their general welfare is being jeopardized by knowing that Muslims are invading their neighborhood," Dozier said.
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I can see how Floridian Moslems might be a tad offended.

The constitution says that there shall be no religious tests for offices (paraphrase) - since the 14th Amendment wouldn't that apply to state offices as well?

Sun-Sentinel said:

In Broward County, Dozier has been a controversial figure on the judicial screening panel, asking judge candidates if they were "God-fearing."
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Hope of Glory · Jul 13, 2006

You know, if large groups of Baptists were running around murdering people, instead of demanding silence from those being critical, I would stand up and shout from the rooftops that these Baptists need to stop doing that and that that's not what Baptists do and...

The Galatian · Jul 13, 2006

"Their general welfare is being jeopardized by knowing that Muslims are invading their neighborhood," Dozier said.
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Sounds like Strom Thurmond talking about equal rights for blacks. There's rich irony in this one.

Daisy · Jul 13, 2006

Hope of Glory said:

You know, if large groups of Baptists were running around murdering people,...
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Oh. I guess I missed the report of large groups of black American Moslems were running around murdering people in Florida and elsewhere.

Some Moslems in Iraq might think that large numbers of American Christians are running around murdering people with bombs and planes and mines, but they would be mistaken, wouldn't they?

HoG said:

... instead of demanding silence from those being critical, I would stand up and shout from the rooftops that these Baptists need to stop doing that and that that's not what Baptists do and...
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You'd be fine with mullahs and organizations like CAIR criticizing Christians for devastating their cities and countryside...ok.

Magnetic Poles · Jul 13, 2006

The title of the thread is not clear...

Bush asked him to step down from the County Nominating Committee, not to step down as a preacher.

LadyEagle · Jul 13, 2006

The point is, CAIR was involved. Whenever CAIR is involved, first amendment rights of non-muslim Americans are violated and the rights of employers (such as Dell in Nashville) become violated. CAIR is partially funded by terrorist groups. CAIR seeks to make America a muslim nation under which sharia law is practiced. As long as people, including politicians and employers, give into the pressure from CAIR crying "racist" - then all non-muslim Americans are at risk from these "legal" terrorist groups like CAIR which seek to make America a muslim state and impose sharia law on the rest of us. Give the devil a foothold and it will become a stronghold.

“Let there be no doubt that the Council on American-Islamic Relations
is a terrorist supporting front organization that is partially funded
by terrorists, and that CAIR wishes nothing more than the
implementation of Sharia law in America.”

http://www.anti-cair-net.org/

Daisy · Jul 14, 2006

LadyEagle said:

The point is, CAIR was involved. Whenever CAIR is involved, first amendment rights of non-muslim Americans are violated and the rights of employers (such as Dell in Nashville) become violated.
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How does the mere fact of CAIR's involvement violate anyone's civil rights? How is any employer's rights been violated in this particular case?

LadyEagle · Jul 15, 2006

Daisy said:

How does the mere fact of CAIR's involvement violate anyone's civil rights?
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Glad you asked....Because of CAIR's pressure, the Governor asked this man to step down from his position. This man's American Constitutional 1st Amendment Rights were violated - freedom of speech. CAIR has a history of defeating Constitutional 1st Amendment Rights. Because true islam does not permit freedom of speech in muslim countries and that is the goal of CAIR in America - to stiffle freedom of speech under the guise of bigotry and racism. Here's another prime example:

According to WMAL, Graham said "Islam is a terrorist organization" 23 times on his July 25 program. On the same show, he also said repeatedly that "moderate Muslims are those who only want to kill Jews" and that "the problem is not extremism. The problem is Islam."

The comments drew complaints and prompted an organized letter-writing campaign against WMAL and its advertisers by a Muslim group, the Council on American-Islam Relations (CAIR) of Washington. The protests led several advertisers to ask WMAL to stop airing their ads during Graham's weekday show, although the station says it didn't lose any advertisers amid the controversy.

In a statement yesterday, Graham blamed CAIR for his firing and defended his comments: "As a fan of talk radio, I find it absolutely outrageous that pressure from a special interest group like CAIR can result in the abandonment of free speech and open discourse on a talk radio show."

Graham, in an interview last night, said he and the station had reached an agreement on terms of his return last week, but the station called back to withdraw. "It was a done deal," he said. "They revoked it because, after further consideration, it didn't contain an apology. And I will not apologize for something that is true."
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/22/AR2005082201255.html

Two more articles about CAIR:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=22985
http://www.meforum.org/article/916

Daisy said:

How is any employer's rights been violated in this particular case?
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The reference I made to employer's rights being violated was Dell.

Dell seeks to end dispute with Muslim workersBy John G. Spooner, CNET News.com
Published on ZDNet News: March 17, 2005, 11:59 AM PT

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Dell is working to resolve a dispute with 30 Muslim workers who allege unfair treatment due to their religious beliefs.

The workers, contractors hired to work at Dell's Nashville, Tenn., manufacturing plant, left their jobs after being prevented from performing their traditional Muslim evening prayers, according to the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a Washington D.C., advocacy group. CAIR said the workers felt they had no choice but to leave the company because they were unable to stop work to pray.

A Dell spokesman said the workers were prevented from stopping work due to a misunderstanding, but were not fired by Dell.

Dell, the world's largest PC maker, said it has been working with CAIR, as well as the Nashville Metro Human Relations Commission, a city government council on employment, to resolve the issue. As part of that effort, it has offered to reinstate all 30 workers. So far, 13 have returned to their jobs, spokesman David Frink said.

Frink said the company supports a diverse work environment and has a long-standing policy of religious accommodation that allows for traditions such as Muslims' sundown prayers. Dell uses a so-called tag-out system where a small number of workers depart work to pray and relieve others to do so upon returning.

However, on Feb. 4, according to CAIR, management told workers they had to remain at their posts. The CAIR spokesman did not cite a reason.
"There was a misapplication of our long-standing practice to accommodate evening prayers," Frink said. But "we're confident that we're going to be appropriately able to resolve the issue."

Aside from entering into a dialog with CAIR and the Nashville Metro Human Relations Commission, Dell has taken steps to ensure its Nashville managers receive additional training on applying the religious accommodation policy, he said.
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http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9584_22-5623543.html

Employers are being pressured to "submit" to the demands of their muslim employees through CAIR, a radical islamic terrorist group that wishes to turn America into a muslim state.

LadyEagle · Jul 15, 2006

The CAIR-U.A.E. Connection
By Paul Sperry
FrontPageMagazine.com | June 20, 2006

An Arab nation with ties to 9-11 has pledged a major endowment to the Council on American-Islamic Relations, even as the Washington-based nonprofit group insists it receives no foreign support.

The United Arab Emirates recently announced on its official government website that it has set up an endowment serving as a source of income for CAIR. The amount of the funding is undisclosed, but sources say it will be enough to help CAIR finance the construction of a new $24 million office building and a planned $50 million public-relations campaign aimed at repairing Islam's -- and the UAE's -- image in America.

A recent Washington Post-ABC poll found that a majority of Americans think Muslims are more prone to resort to violence, and more Americans now have a negative view of Islam than right after the 9-11 terror attacks.

Americans also have a lower opinion of the UAE now, thanks to its recent bid to take over U.S. port operations. The political storm over the deal drew increased attention to the Arab country's ties to terrorism.
CAIR -- Washington's biggest Muslim lobbying group -- is quoted in the UAE statement, but has not released its own statement. It is not commenting publicly about the size of the endowment or other details.

But the UAE, which formally recognized the Taliban and acted as a launching point for the 9-11 hijackers, has already taken a nearly $1 million stake in CAIR's existing headquarters near the U.S. Capitol. As first reported in the book, Infiltration, Dubai holds the deed to the building. The transaction took place in 2002, according to local property records.

The strengthened financial partnership comes at a critical time for both parties.

The UAE is still reeling from a spate of bad press following its controversial bid to take over control of shipping terminals at major U.S. ports. Partnering with CAIR gives it a voice in U.S. politics and media, which it hopes will help repair its image and protect its business interests.
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http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=22983

Daisy · Jul 15, 2006

There is no constitutional guarantee that an employer can't chose to fire an at-will employee, but they are expected to reasonnably accommodate their employee's religious practices.

Dozier was a liability to his employer who chose to fire him. Same for Graham (how did he get into this discussion??). Their employers chose to fire them.

Dell chose not to fire its employees.

It's not clear to me how United Arab Emirates served as a "launching pad" for the 9-11 hijackers. I thought they learned to fly here in America and that they caught their respective lethal planes here in America. Who did the US recognise as Afghanistan's government in 2001? If I knew, I don't remember.

LadyEagle · Jul 15, 2006

When the dots are connected, the common denominator in these examples is CAIR involvement.

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