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Guess who aren't supporting the troops, and want a withdrawal this year.

Discussion in '2006 Archive' started by npc, Mar 15, 2006.

  1. npc

    npc New Member

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    http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1075

     
  2. Bob Farnaby

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    Supporting your troups (and ours!) and wanting them home aren't mutually exclusive items.

    I'm not sure of the credibility level of the people who did the survey, but the figures quoted seem similar to others I've seen. (maybe they were quotes from this survey, not sure) None seem unrealistic.

    Regards
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    Zogby has a good reputation as a pollster.
     
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    If you are in 120 degree heat, wearing armor, etc. and you are asked the simple question, "Would you like to go home within a year?" what would you say?

    And yes I agree Zogby is a "good" polster if there is such a thing these days. He isn't known for framing questions to tilt results.

    Most troops support the efforts there and would simply ask for more troops to seal off the borders from Syria, and Iran.
     
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    Of course he does.

    Wasn't he the one that predicted a smashing Kerry victory on election day? ;)
     
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    Um, no. Not Zogby. IIRC, his prediction was that the election was Kerry's to lose. In short, Kerry had the edge.

    Kerry muffed it by not replying early and vigorously to Bush's "Swift Boats" slander. Although most people now realized what happened, at the time, many believed Bush's people.

    I have my own concerns about Zogby, in that if you have the money, he will do a poll to your specs.

    The "even scientists at Sandia lab support intelligent design" scam was abetted by a poll he produced, although the Discovery Institute has withdrawn it as misleading.
     
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    Of course he does.

    Wasn't he the one that predicted a smashing Kerry victory on election day? ;)
    </font>[/QUOTE]Yes, based on exit polling. Interestingly, the polls from machines with audit trails were highly accurate, while the results from the ones with Diebold electronic machines - no audit trail - didn't hold.

    Link to rest of this really interesting article
     
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    I think Kerry is the only liberal in the nation who accepted the outcome of the election; to the rest, it was some sort of a conspiracy.
     
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    </font>[/QUOTE]
     
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    You don't think it's interesting that our troops have such a huge misconception about the reason they're there?
     
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    Of course he does.

    Wasn't he the one that predicted a smashing Kerry victory on election day? ;)
    </font>[/QUOTE]Yes, based on exit polling. Interestingly, the polls from machines with audit trails were highly accurate, while the results from the ones with Diebold electronic machines - no audit trail - didn't hold.

    </font>[/QUOTE]No exit polls were being done Oct. 10, 2004.

    http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/2004/10/projected_elect.html

    Here's a surprise: The WSJ/Zogby Swing State Polls has Kerry significantly ahead in electoral votes. A new WSJ.com projection of the Electoral College map, based on online polling done in 16 battleground states by Zogby Interactive, shows that under the survey's current trends, and assuming Mr. Kerry wins states where he has razor-thin leads now, he would have 322 electoral votes and the president would have 216:
     
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