Featured Gun Ownership ... and my prediction!

I was disgusted over the weekend by the father of one of Elliot Rodger's victims demanding guns be outlawed, as though it would have done anything to save his son. The poor idiot doesn't seem to remember Rodger's first three victims were his roommates -- stabbed to death in their apartment. :BangHead:

 

I just find it interesting that the murderer's father directed a series of films about children killing other children. And now it's coming out that he is a pornographer as well, which may help to explain the murderer's obsession with sex.

 

I agree. I believe they're crying out, "Why wouldn't you let us protect ourselves!"

Absolutely. "Never let a crisis go to waste."

Depends on how you define "peace", I guess.

I don't think being under the threat of tyranny is "peaceful" at all.

 

Oh great - blame the victim. How very Christian of you - not!

 

I thought the same thing. Apparently, those deaths meant nothing.

I'll give him some slack for being a grieving parent, but not for the media who will exploit his tragedy like they are, to get on the anti-gun bandwagon. In this case, we are absolutely correct to point out just as many victims were created with a knife, as with the gun.

 

How is that blaming the victims? He's simply pointing out that gun laws would not have prevented their murders.

 

Now this is a blatant case of the exposure of a true liberal doctrine; a guy murders several people, but HE, the killer, is somehow THE victim.
I call attention to my sig line as being proven!!!:laugh: (Excluding the parenthetical portion of course!):thumbsup:

 

O...kay...let's try and read what people actually said rather than what you think they said:

Thisnumberdisconnected said:

It was quite clear from this that the victim he was referencing was NOT Rodgers (as you seem to think) but one of Rodgers' victims and her father. That to me is a clear case of kicking a victim when he is down and is morally reprehensible, disgraceful and conduct unbecoming of a Christian.

As for the 'liberal' tag, I have no idea what you mean by that as I have voted Conservative all my adult life. I can only assume it is meant as some kind of insult and I shall therefore ignore it as being meaningless.

 

Matt.....you know this county (USA) thinks very differently about Gun's than does the UK, right? Especially the Bible belt area of the country. Some (Obama) would include Pennsylvania and Ohio.

 

Yep. I'm well aware of that - and I really struggle to understand it. I particularly struggle when it is Christians who are endorsing the possession of instruments of death - it runs totally counter-cultural to Gospel values IMO.

[But, then, we have our own pro-death culture here too: abortion :-(]

 

Guns are only tools, like hammers, knives & crowbars. in the wrong hands though they can be what you define them as "instruments of death."

Alcohol & drugs can be used as valued medications but again in the wrong hands, once again instruments of death.

If you & I when out to the corner bar (pub) & sat at a table with a couple of Guinness pints & a few burgers & discussed Christ there are people that would vilify us both but it aint wrong. If I had to express force (which I deplore) to overthrow a tyrant (for example Hitler, Stalin etc) it would not be wrong....though it would haunt me. We are a sinful world....often willingly & we self inflict our own wounds. Thankfully there is Christ to come to the rescue......without him, we would all be lost. HE makes us better & HE forgives & HE is merciful. :godisgood:

 

I think that the main point of difference re guns is that they are 'tools' whose sole use (outside of the sporting arena) is to inflict injury and death. That is in contrast to all the other things listed by people: cars, alcohol, knives, etc, which don't have death and injury as their reason for use except when abused.

 

This for me highlights a massive Pond cultural difference: you feel secure knowing you and your neighbours own a gun; I feel secure that neither I or any of my neighbours own a gun which they could use to go on a shooting spree if they feel life is treating them a tad unfairly like Master Rodgers.

 

So, when those things are used to kill, it's only because they're "abused", but when some idiot liberal decides to go on a shooting rampage with an illegally obtained gun, that's not abuse?

As much as it pains me to agree with Earth, Wind, and Fire, a gun is just a tool. To quote a line from Shane, "A gun is only a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is only as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. "

Yeah, I agree. Can you just imagine Jesus telling His disciples to go out and sell their cloaks to buy instruments of death to take with them?

 

You understand metaphor, don't you?

And your post utterly misses the point about the sole purpose of the gun being to kill, maim or injure. I can't see that as being Gospel values, can you?

 

You struggle to understand it because you do not know the foundation of it.

 

It is not the sole purpose and your characterization of guns is rather sophomoric.