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Harry Reid said WHAT?!?

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rbell

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Oh, now that was stupid indeed.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100109/ap_on_el_se/us_obama_reid

During the presidential campaign, Senator Harry Reid of Nevada described in private then-Sen. Barack Obama as "light skinned" and "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one."

It's not the offensiveness of the statement (not sure it really is). But a leftist like Reid can't afford to offend the professionally offended. (he's down in every poll taken for his seat).
 
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targus

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rbell said:
Oh, now that was stupid indeed.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100109/ap_on_el_se/us_obama_reid

During the presidential campaign, Senator Harry Reid of Nevada described in private then-Sen. Barack Obama as "light skinned" and "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one."

It's not the offensiveness of the statement (not sure it really is). But a leftist like Reid can't afford to offend the professionally offended. (he's down in every poll taken for his seat).
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Yes, "Negro dialect" is very offensive.

Scratch a white liberal and you will find a racist at the core.
 
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rbell

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billwald said:
Why, then, do black Americans even in the north talk different than white people?
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Black people usually "sound different" than white people.

I don't disagree, and that wasn't my point.

My point is, this guy was an idiot for voicing this. He needs the undying support of the left to get elected...and statements like this alienate leftists.
 
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targus

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billwald said:
Why, then, do black Americans even in the north talk different than white people?
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And there it is!!!!!!!

I repeat - Scratch a white liberal and you will find a racist at the core.

It isn't race that determines dialect - it is cultural environment.

Any more white liberals that what to chime in and prove my point again?

We have a couple more here on the board.

Please, don't make me name names.
 
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Tom Butler

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With President Obama's forgiveness of the gaffe, it will go away very quickly in Washington. But it's just another nail in Mr. Reid's prospects for re-election back in Nevada. His opponent won't let it go away back there.
 
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FR7 Baptist

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rbell said:
Black people usually "sound different" than white people.

I don't disagree, and that wasn't my point.

My point is, this guy was an idiot for voicing this. He needs the undying support of the left to get elected...and statements like this alienate leftists.
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Wow, for the third time I agree with you. :eek:
 
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JohnDeereFan

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rbell said:
Oh, now that was stupid indeed.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100109/ap_on_el_se/us_obama_reid

During the presidential campaign, Senator Harry Reid of Nevada described in private then-Sen. Barack Obama as "light skinned" and "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one."

It's not the offensiveness of the statement (not sure it really is). But a leftist like Reid can't afford to offend the professionally offended. (he's down in every poll taken for his seat).
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Boy, it's a good thing he's a Democrat or else something like this might get him in trouble.
 
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rbell said:
Black people usually "sound different" than white people.
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There was a very funny episode of "Boston Legal" that centered around this very issue and around Denny Crane getting into trouble for making that same observation.
 
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Tom Butler said:
With President Obama's forgiveness of the gaffe, it will go away very quickly in Washington.
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I find it very interesting that Oba-Mao was so quick to forgive Reid, but then, back in 2002, when the Dems drove Trent Lott out of Congress over an innocent comment, Oba-Mao said:

"It seems to be that we can forgive a 100-year-old senator for some of the indiscretion of his youth, but, what is more difficult to forgive is the current president of the U.S. Senate (Lott) suggesting we had been better off if we had followed a segregationist path in this country after all of the battles and fights for civil rights and all the work that we still have to do," said Obama...The Republican Party itself has to drive out Trent Lott. If they have to stand for something, they have to stand up and say this is not the person we want representing our party."
--From the December 12, 2002 issue of the Chicago Defender.
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But it's just another nail in Mr. Reid's prospects for re-election back in Nevada.
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There are currently three Republicans running against Reid in Nevada and polls show that he's trailing all three of them. A poll this week showed that 53% of Nevada voters "strongly disapprove" (and we can expect that number to go up with his latest racist quotes), while 15 are undecided.
 
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As my wife so astutely observed, somebody (on the left) wants to nail Reid.

That's the only reason this is a issue NOW - if a Rep. had uttered the infamous words, they would have been front page across the country within 24 hours. As it is, we now hear about it quite some time after the fact.

I seriously doubt that it will hurt Reid worse than a mosquito bite, since the left tends to OK anything their own kind does. Oh sure, they will give a little maudlin chastisement to the press for the public consumption, but that will be the extent of any repercussions from the left.

Quite the opposite of what would have happened had the speaker been a R.

For the record, Reid actually only spoke truth (IMHO), and the statement was a bit on the course side of civility, but certainly squat for any kind of uproar over.

The only gripe I have is the double standard, not the statement itself.
 
Bro. Curtis

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In Malcom X's book, he describes hiself as "less threatening" than other blacks, due to his lighter skin tone, & reddish hair. It seems he would agree with the wimpy Harry.

Although the word "Negro" does make me cringe a bit, there is nothing racist in what Harry Reid said, and he has nothing to apologize for. America is always willing to throw the racist insult around, it's a bit much. Harry is still a sniveling wisp of a man, but he is not a racist.

On the other hand, if Limbaugh had said this, there would be calls for his head. But it wouldn't make him a racist, either.

Now Bill Clinton, saying about the zero, and I quote.... "A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee," is extremely racist, and it cost Hillary Teddy Kennedy's endorsement, but the libbie news buried the story.
 
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Bro. Curtis said:
On the other hand, if Limbaugh had said this, there would be calls for his head. But it wouldn't make him a racist, either.

Now Bill Clinton, saying about the zero, and I quote.... "A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee," is extremely racist, and it cost Hillary Teddy Kennedy's endorsement, but the libbie news buried the story.
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Don't forget that toward the end of the eight year frat party that was the Clinton administration, Hillary Clinton was caught making abti-Semetic remarks in a private, but recorded, conversation that was leaked.

When was the last time you heard anybody talk about that?

But like I pointed out earlier, Oba-Mao is the same guy who called for the Republicans to kick Trent Lott out of the party for his remarks about Strom Thurmond and now, he seems to have no problem (publically, at least) with Reid's comments.

And, for that matter, while Lott was being run out of town for his comments, Chris Dodd made very similar comments about former Klan leader, Robert Byrd. When was the last time you heard anything about that?
 
Bro. Curtis

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I don't believe it is. Teaching ebonics may be, but not recognizing there are differences in the races, when it comes to speech inflections & such.
 
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matt wade

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targus said:
To believe that there is a "Negro dialect" is RACIST !!!:BangHead:
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Then it must be RACIST to believe that Southerners have an accent and words that "are their own" or that Canadians have the same.

Give me a break...
 
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