Alan Gross
Well-Known Member
Romans 8:30 "Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified."
I was asked by a poster to repost this, here.
The question is, that there are those who say
that the lost soul is not Predestinated to be Called, or Justified, by God.
They claim that the lost soul is "justified by works".
"Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only."
James 2:24.
And then that we will all be judged for our works, by God,
after we die to see if we have a home in Heaven?
Whether that is what they believe
about waiting to be Judged for our Salvation until we are in Heaven, or not,
just the part about being "justified by works", for salvation
whenever it might come about, seems like it would be a very important matter.
Important enough to pray about?
That is the question.
Have you ever heard of anyone that "prayed for Justification"?
Or "help me work Lord, in a way that I can be Justified"?
Have you ever "prayed for Justification"?
Wonder why, if not?
...
Below is the topic of Justification that we say is Predestined, by God.
My comments in blue.
The 1677/89 London Baptist Confession of Faith, chapter 11 is in black.
(remember, they wrote the portions in black),
and I believe most of the Bible citations are theirs,
The Bible is in purple.
My emphasis on anything is in red.
Adapted from:
The 1677/89 London Baptist Confession of Faith, chapter 11.
Justification.
1. Those whom God Effectually calls, he also freely justifies,
God gives His saved children Justification.
Romans 3:24 "Being justified freely by his grace
through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus":
Romans 8:30 "Moreover whom he did predestinate,
them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified:
and whom he justified, them he also glorified."
God Justifies His saved children,
not by or because He gives them Righteousness,
"...not by infusing Righteousness into them, but by pardoning their sins,
Romans 4:5-8 "But to him that worketh not,
but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly,
his faith is counted for righteousness.
God Justifies the ungodly because He pardons their sins.
God does not Justify the Ungodly;
"...because of "righteousness", like in the previous verse,
where He informs us that those who;
"...believe on him that justifies the ungodly,
his faith is counted for righteousness."
Because, that Believing and Faith
are the result of our sin being Pardoned
and our then being Justified, by him that "justifieth the ungodly",
"...as it is also true in the next verse we do have righteousness Imputed to us;
6 Even as David also described the blessedness of the man,
unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
"...but, the reason God Justifies the ungodly,
is because He pardons our sins, as we hear David;
7 "[Saying], Blessed [are] they whose iniquities are forgiven,
and whose sins are covered.
8 "Blessed [is] the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin."
Ephesians 1:7 "In whom we have redemption through his blood,
the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
God Justifies us because He has pardoned our sins by the blood of Jesus
and it is then with our soul being in Christ that we,
as saved Persons In Christ, Pardoned and Justified, have become Righteous,
"...and by accounting, and accepting their Persons that are In Christ as Righteous;
"...by accounting, and accepting the saved soul's Person,
as they are NOW "IN CHRIST", as Righteousness,
... it is now THEIR PERSON that is In CHRIST, (not by their "believing or "faith",
as in Romans 4:5;
"but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly,
his faith is counted for righteousness."
...that is accounted, or credited, and accepted by God
for their having Righteousness
1 Corinthians 1:30-31 "But of him are ye in Christ Jesus,
Who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness,
and sanctification, and redemption:
31 "That, according as it is written, He that glories, let him glory in the Lord."
Romans 5:17-19 "For if by one man's offence death reigned by one;
much more they which receive abundance of grace
and of the gift of righteousness
shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
18 "Therefore as by the offence of one
[judgment came] upon all men to condemnation;
even so by the righteousness of one [the free gift came]
upon all men unto justification of life.
19 "For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners,
so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous."
con't
I was asked by a poster to repost this, here.
The question is, that there are those who say
that the lost soul is not Predestinated to be Called, or Justified, by God.
They claim that the lost soul is "justified by works".
"Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only."
James 2:24.
And then that we will all be judged for our works, by God,
after we die to see if we have a home in Heaven?
Whether that is what they believe
about waiting to be Judged for our Salvation until we are in Heaven, or not,
just the part about being "justified by works", for salvation
whenever it might come about, seems like it would be a very important matter.
Important enough to pray about?
That is the question.
Have you ever heard of anyone that "prayed for Justification"?
Or "help me work Lord, in a way that I can be Justified"?
Have you ever "prayed for Justification"?
Wonder why, if not?
...
Below is the topic of Justification that we say is Predestined, by God.
My comments in blue.
The 1677/89 London Baptist Confession of Faith, chapter 11 is in black.
(remember, they wrote the portions in black),
and I believe most of the Bible citations are theirs,
The Bible is in purple.
My emphasis on anything is in red.
Adapted from:
The 1677/89 London Baptist Confession of Faith, chapter 11.
Justification.

1. Those whom God Effectually calls, he also freely justifies,
God gives His saved children Justification.
Romans 3:24 "Being justified freely by his grace
through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus":
Romans 8:30 "Moreover whom he did predestinate,
them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified:
and whom he justified, them he also glorified."
God Justifies His saved children,
not by or because He gives them Righteousness,
"...not by infusing Righteousness into them, but by pardoning their sins,
Romans 4:5-8 "But to him that worketh not,
but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly,
his faith is counted for righteousness.
God Justifies the ungodly because He pardons their sins.
God does not Justify the Ungodly;
"...because of "righteousness", like in the previous verse,
where He informs us that those who;
"...believe on him that justifies the ungodly,
his faith is counted for righteousness."
Because, that Believing and Faith
are the result of our sin being Pardoned
and our then being Justified, by him that "justifieth the ungodly",
"...as it is also true in the next verse we do have righteousness Imputed to us;
6 Even as David also described the blessedness of the man,
unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
"...but, the reason God Justifies the ungodly,
is because He pardons our sins, as we hear David;
7 "[Saying], Blessed [are] they whose iniquities are forgiven,
and whose sins are covered.
8 "Blessed [is] the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin."
Ephesians 1:7 "In whom we have redemption through his blood,
the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
God Justifies us because He has pardoned our sins by the blood of Jesus
and it is then with our soul being in Christ that we,
as saved Persons In Christ, Pardoned and Justified, have become Righteous,
"...and by accounting, and accepting their Persons that are In Christ as Righteous;
"...by accounting, and accepting the saved soul's Person,
as they are NOW "IN CHRIST", as Righteousness,
... it is now THEIR PERSON that is In CHRIST, (not by their "believing or "faith",
as in Romans 4:5;
"but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly,
his faith is counted for righteousness."
...that is accounted, or credited, and accepted by God
for their having Righteousness
1 Corinthians 1:30-31 "But of him are ye in Christ Jesus,
Who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness,
and sanctification, and redemption:
31 "That, according as it is written, He that glories, let him glory in the Lord."
Romans 5:17-19 "For if by one man's offence death reigned by one;
much more they which receive abundance of grace
and of the gift of righteousness
shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
18 "Therefore as by the offence of one
[judgment came] upon all men to condemnation;
even so by the righteousness of one [the free gift came]
upon all men unto justification of life.
19 "For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners,
so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous."
con't