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Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate

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InTheLight

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Wow, awesome respected 'news' sources.

Anyway, let's say that it turns out that Obama was not born in Hawaii. Let's say it was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. How would you have the country proceed? What steps would you take to rectify the problem?
 

targus

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Wow, awesome respected 'news' sources.

Google it - there are many other sources.

Do you doubt the truth of it?

If so - show that it is untrue.

Anyway, let's say that it turns out that Obama was not born in Hawaii. Let's say it was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. How would you have the country proceed? What steps would you take to rectify the problem?

That is obvious - if a person is not constitutionally qualified to hold the office then he cannot hold the office and the VP assumes it.
 

InTheLight

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Google it - there are many other sources.

Do you doubt the truth of it?

If so - show that it is untrue.

The state of Hawaii has done an investigation and declared the Obama was born in Hawaii. The burden of proof is on the birthers.



That is obvious - if a person is not constitutionally qualified to hold the office then he cannot hold the office and the VP assumes it.

Step-by-step, how would it play out?
 

webdog

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The state of Hawaii has done an investigation and declared the Obama was born in Hawaii. The burden of proof is on the birthers.
Isn't the governor part of the state's government? Wouldn't he have access to the state's "findings"?
Step-by-step, how would it play out?
Impeachment for starters, then an ironclad amendment outlining exactly what a natural born citizen is.
 

targus

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The state of Hawaii has done an investigation and declared the Obama was born in Hawaii. The burden of proof is on the birthers.

A declaration isn't a birth certificate is it?

Is a declaration sufficient to meet the constitutional requirements to serve as President?

The mechanics of a disqualified person leaving the office of President is not within my body of knowledge. Nor does it need be.
 

TCassidy

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President Obama's birth certificate was made available to the public and has been available on-line since mid 2008.

However, the brain dead "birthers" are all so stupid they can't seem to find it. Of course, they can't seem to understand other very simple facts. Such as, even if President Obama was not born in Hawaii, he is still a natural born citizen because his mother was a natural born citizen.

Move on. Nothing to see here. Just some retarded people engaging in intellectual self-abuse.
 

targus

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President Obama's birth certificate was made available to the public and has been available on-line since mid 2008.

Then why is the Governor of Hawaii, the State Attorney General of Hawaii, and the head of Hawaii Health and Services looking for it - and now saying that they can't find it?

However, the brain dead "birthers" are all so stupid they can't seem to find it. Of course, they can't seem to understand other very simple facts. Such as, even if President Obama was not born in Hawaii, he is still a natural born citizen because his mother was a natural born citizen.

Actually it is not that simple in that his father was not a US citizen.

Move on. Nothing to see here. Just some retarded people engaging in intellectual self-abuse.

Your comment speaks more to your own intellectual capacity than mine.
 

rbell

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another issue to remember:

Let's say that Obama isn't qualified...can you imagine the riots if he were removed?

You just think you've seen anarchy during the Watts and Rodney King riots.
 

targus

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another issue to remember:

Let's say that Obama isn't qualified...can you imagine the riots if he were removed?

You just think you've seen anarchy during the Watts and Rodney King riots.

Do you think that the threat of lawlessness would justify keeping him as President if it is proven that he is not a citizen?

If yes - then let's take that line of reason a little further.

Would a threat of lawlessness justify a second term for Obama even if he were to loose the election?
 

rbell

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Do you think that the threat of lawlessness would justify keeping him as President if it is proven that he is not a citizen?

If yes - then let's take that line of reason a little further.

Would a threat of lawlessness justify a second term for Obama even if he were to loose the election?

I just think that secretly, this is why you won't see much impetus for justifying Obama's citizenship.

In the eyes of most folks, the price is simply too high.


Not neccessarily my view...I'm conflicted on the issue...but there it is.
 

targus

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I just think that secretly, this is why you won't see much impetus for justifying Obama's citizenship.

In the eyes of most folks, the price is simply too high.

Not neccessarily my view...I'm conflicted on the issue...but there it is.

Perhaps the issue may prevent him from running for a second term.

Several States are planning on requiring a valid birth certificate in order to be on the ballot.
 

webdog

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President Obama's birth certificate was made available to the public and has been available on-line since mid 2008.

However, the brain dead "birthers" are all so stupid they can't seem to find it. Of course, they can't seem to understand other very simple facts. Such as, even if President Obama was not born in Hawaii, he is still a natural born citizen because his mother was a natural born citizen.

Move on. Nothing to see here. Just some retarded people engaging in intellectual self-abuse.
Wow, using a mental handicap as an insult. That's pretty mature.

Maybe the governor doesn't have internet access to what has been made public since '08...or maybe you have no clue what is online.
 

TCassidy

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Then why is the Governor of Hawaii, the State Attorney General of Hawaii, and the head of Hawaii Health and Services looking for it - and now saying that they can't find it?
This has been explained several times so I will type r-e-a-l s-l-o-w. When the Hawaii vital records were digitized the originals were destroyed. They took up too much space.
Actually it is not that simple in that his father was not a US citizen.
His mother was a natural born citizen. He therefore is also a natural born citizen. Very simple for anyone with an IQ greater than his hat size.
Your comment speaks more to your own intellectual capacity than mine.
Yes, it does. Mine has the capacity to understand simple facts. Your's seem to lack that capacity.
 

Salty

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This has been explained several times so I will type r-e-a-l s-l-o-w. When the Hawaii vital records were digitized the originals were destroyed. They took up too much space...

Then why don't they digitized it off the computer, and make a hard copy?

and NO, I am not a birther - as the bailiff says "The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Just curious, what did Obama use to get his drivers license - and any other legal document - such as a passport?
 

targus

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This has been explained several times so I will type r-e-a-l s-l-o-w. When the Hawaii vital records were digitized the originals were destroyed. They took up too much space.

If this were truly the case - and not someone's spin - why would not the Governor of Hawaii, the Hawaii State Attorney General and the head of the Hawaii Department of Health and Services not know this?

Why would they be spending all this time and effort?

Could it possibly be that what you believe concerning the records is not true?

His mother was a natural born citizen. He therefore is also a natural born citizen. Very simple for anyone with an IQ greater than his hat size.Yes, it does. Mine has the capacity to understand simple facts. Your's seem to lack that capacity.

If Obama was not born on U.S. soil then he would not be a natural born citizen because it is a requirement for both parents to be citizens in such a case.

What does your lack of knowledge concerning that fact say about your IQ? :smilewinkgrin:
 
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