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Heb. 10.8-10

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by Frogman, Mar 29, 2003.

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  1. Frogman

    Frogman <img src="http://www.churches.net/churches/fubc/Fr

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    Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law. Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

    That which is emphasized in bold print, whose 'will' is this speaking of?

    Which will? The same 'will' Christ submitted himself to, whose 'will' is this, the will of God and cannot be stretched to mean any other.


    Wierd hermeneutics :eek: :rolleyes:

    Bro. dallas
     
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  2. ScottEmerson

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    The NIV makes things a little easier to understand. "That will" is obviously referring to the will of God that Christ submitted to. That will was his sacrifice (v. 14). That is the will that makes us holy.
     
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  3. Frogman

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    The NIV makes things a little easier to understand. "That will" is obviously referring to the will of God that Christ submitted to. That will was his sacrifice (v. 14). That is the will that makes us holy. </font>[/QUOTE]That is the will that makes us holy.

    This is exactly my point, that will is that will of God and it is that which makes us Holy. None other.

    Bro. Dallas
     
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  4. npetreley

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    Bzzzt. Thank you for playing, though.

    The phrasing groups it as "by whose will we are sanctified" after which it says how we are sanctified -- "through or by the means of (dia) the offering of the body".

    The will that we are sanctified is accomplished by the means of the offering. While it is self-evident that it is God's will that Jesus be sacrificed, that is not what is being communicated here.

    By &lt;1722&gt; the which &lt;3739&gt; will &lt;2307&gt; we are &lt;2070&gt; (5748) sanctified &lt;37&gt; (5772) through &lt;1223&gt; the offering &lt;4376&gt; of the body &lt;4983&gt; of Jesus &lt;2424&gt; Christ &lt;5547&gt; once &lt;2178&gt; [for all].
     
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  5. ScottEmerson

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    ANd what was the will of God that the author is talking about? The sacrifice of JEsus Christ.

    Arminians agree that GOd is the only one who can provide holiness. Holiness is given when we become children of GOd by believing in Christ.
     
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    That is what I said.

    The means of the offering is that Christ died. That's exactly what the verse is communicating. That was the will of God.
     
    #6 ScottEmerson, Mar 29, 2003
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