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[Crabtownboy]

Mitt really should know better. He is so wrong in his statement that no one dies because of a lack of health insurance. He should spend some time seeing people who do not have health insurance!

Romney said:

“we don’t have people that become ill, who die in their apartment because they don’t have insurance.”

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I hate to tell you this, Mitt of 2012, but we do have people who die every day because they lack health insurance.

A 2009 Harvard Medical School study found, for example, that “the uninsured are more likely to die than are the privately insured.” “Lack of health insurance,” that study found, “is associated with as many as 44,789 deaths per year in the United States, more than those caused by kidney disease.” While, you, as Mitt of 2012, claimed that the government will protect those without insurance, the same study found that “alternative measures of access to medical care for the uninsured, such as community health centers, do not provide the protection of private health insurance.”

Another report, by the healthcare consumer advocacy group FamiliesUSA, found slightly lower numbers — 26,100 adults ages 25 to 64 died prematurely due to a lack of health insurance in 2010. The report, Dying For Coverage: The Deadly Consequences of Being Uninsured, also determined that more than 2,000 people die prematurely every month in the U.S. — 72 every day, three every hour. The report also found that from 2005 to 2010, “the number of people who died prematurely each year due to a lack of health coverage rose from 20,350 to 26,100.”

As if these awful statistics weren’t enough to repudiate Mitt of 2012's claims, being uninsured is also a predictor of poor outcomes even when you do receive care at a government’s or hospital’s expense (which of course is really our expense because it is passed on through higher taxes and insurance premiums). A study from the University of Virginia School of Medicine found that although the uninsured may make it to the hospital, they are more likely than people with insurance to die from heart bypass operations. Another study, from epidemiologists at the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health, found that the uninsured were more likely to die from a heart attack, even when admitted.

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[InTheLight]

What he really said:

"We don't have a setting across this country where if you don’t have insurance, we just say to you, 'Tough luck, you're going to die when you have your heart attack,'" he added in the interview. "No, you go to the hospital, you get treated, you get care, and it’s paid for, either by charity, the government or by the hospital."

“No, you go to the hospital, you get treated, you get care, and it’s paid for, either by charity, the government or by the hospital. We don’t have people that become ill, who die in their apartment because they don’t have insurance.”

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/10/11/health-care-called-choice.html

Do people actually die in their apartments who don't have insurance? Undoubtedly. But it's not because they don't have options. Your attempt to make this out to be some sort of damning gaffe by Romney by taking a phrase from a sentence out of context is wrong.

 

[Crabtownboy]

What he really said:

"We don't have a setting across this country where if you don’t have insurance, we just say to you, 'Tough luck, you're going to die when you have your heart attack,'" he added in the interview. "No, you go to the hospital, you get treated, you get care, and it’s paid for, either by charity, the government or by the hospital."

“No, you go to the hospital, you get treated, you get care, and it’s paid for, either by charity, the government or by the hospital. We don’t have people that become ill, who die in their apartment because they don’t have insurance.”

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/10/11/health-care-called-choice.html

But people do die. He mentioned a heart attack. What he did not mention were all those who die from chronic diseases, cancer, diabetes, etc. from lack of care. He is also assuming that everyone has a telephone, lives in an urban area. He is wrong on both counts. People do die because of lack of health insurance!

His statement does not change that fact.

 

[InTheLight]

But people do die. He mentioned a heart attack. What he did not mention were all those who die from chronic diseases, cancer, diabetes, etc. from lack of care. He is also assuming that everyone has a telephone, lives in an urban area. He is wrong on both counts. People do die because of lack of health insurance!

His statement does not change that fact.

It is true that people without health insurance with chronic diseases that don't have the wherewithal to get properly treated will die sooner than those that have insurance and get treated. Do you really think Romney would contest this?

If you take his comments in context he was saying that no one needs to be denied treatment in an emergency because they don't have insurance. That's all he said. It's disingenuous to ascribe other unsaid things to his comments.

So far as I know people with health insurance and telephones die also.

 

[Revmitchell]

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

 

[Revmitchell]

Mitt really should know better. He is so wrong in his statement that no one dies because of a lack of health insurance. He should spend some time seeing people who do not have health insurance!

Romney said:

This definition fits the op well:

ma·lar·key
   [muh-lahr-kee]

noun Informal .
speech or writing designed to obscure, mislead, or impress; bunkum: The claims were just a lot of malarkey.

 

[Deacon]

More people die from ignorance than lack of health insurance – I’d guess the two are closely related.
Providing free health care to ignorant people is inefficient, often ineffective and quite costly.

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That being said I’ve bumped up against Obamacare recently.
My workplace has begun reducing the hours of many full time employees to less than 30 hours.
It seems that Obamacare considers employees that work 30 hours or less part-time employees.
Beginning in 2014 businesses of a certain size will not have to provide healthcare coverage for part-time workers.

So far I’ve made the cut but two friends didn’t – they don’t get to keep the healthcare insurance that they’ve always had – wasn’t a promise made that we’d get to keep the healthcare we’ve always had?

Rob

 

[InTheLight]

My workplace has begun reducing the hours of many full time employees to less than 30 hours.
It seems that Obamacare considers employees that work 30 hours or less part-time employees.
Beginning in 2014 businesses of a certain size will not have to provide healthcare coverage for part-time workers.

So far I’ve made the cut but two friends didn’t – they don’t get to keep the healthcare insurance that they’ve always had – wasn’t a promise made that we’d get to keep the healthcare we’ve always had?

Rob

Yes, reducing full time workers to part time workers is a consequence of ObamaCare. It's likely that these businesses that do this will then need to hire more part time workers. This will make the unemployment rate look better than it actually is. A win-win for Obama.

Get ready for an explosion in new businesses being formed. Another consequence of ObamaCare. Starting in 2014 if a business has more than 50 employees and they don't provide health care insurance they will be fined $3,000 per employee. A logical result will be a business owner with more than 50 employee will form another business entity and divvy up his employees between the two businesses in order to skirt the $3,000 tax.

 

[OldRegular]

Mitt really should know better. He is so wrong in his statement that no one dies because of a lack of health insurance. He should spend some time seeing people who do not have health insurance!

Romney said:

Crabby if Christians personally looked after people the way Romney is reported to do perhaps fewer would die because of poverty!

 

[Crabtownboy]

Romney is simply unaware of how people have to live.

 

[InTheLight]

Romney is simply unaware of how people have to live.

From the debate:

Ryan: ..let me tell you about the Mitt Romney I know. This is a guy who I was talking to a family in Northborough, Massachusetts the other day, Sheryl and Mark Nixon. Their kids were hit in a car crash, four of them. Two of them, Rob and Reed, were paralyzed. The Romneys didn’t know them. They went to the same church; they never met before.

Mitt asked if he could come over on Christmas. He brought his boys, his wife, and gifts. Later on, he said, “I know you’re struggling, Mark. Don’t worry about their college. I’ll pay for it.”

When Mark told me this story, because, you know what, Mitt Romney doesn’t tell these stories. The Nixons told this story. When he told me this story, he said it wasn’t the help, the cash help. It’s that he gave his time, and he has consistently.

 

[Alcott]

Romney is simply unaware of how people have to live.

So are you going to write him and tell him?

 

[LadyEagle]

More people will be dying under obamacare when Catholic hospitals start shutting down.