Hispanics In the USA

[Crabtownboy]

There seems to be a number of people in our society that when they hear the word Hispanic or Latino they automatically think illegal. I suppose the media is partly responsible for this. However the vast majority of Hispanics and/or Latinos are legal and comprise the 3rd largest minority group of voters in our country. Not only that, but they are a growing minority group of legal voters. It would seem that a political party would be forward looking enough not to pursue policies that drive them into the arms of the other party. That does not seem to be the case at this time in our history.

So, let's look at some figures:

As of 2013, there are an estimated 54 million Hispanic people in the United States. That is just over 17% of the total U.S. population and a 2.1% increase over the previous year.

By 2060, the Census Bureau projects that there will be almost 128.8 million Hispanic people in the United States and that they will comprise 31% of the total population.

Two-thirds of the Hispanic people in the United States are of Mexican background, according to 2013 Census estimates.

California is the state with the largest Hispanic population by 2013 Census estimates -- 14.7 million. But New Mexico has the highest Hispanic percentage of the state population -- 47.3 percent.

These are the states where more than 30% of the population is Hispanic, based on 2013 Census estimates: Arizona, 30.3%; California, 38.4%; New Mexico, 47.3%; and Texas, 38.4.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/20/us/hispanics-in-the-u-s-/

Number of illegal undocumented people in the USA:

The illegal immigrant population of the United States in 2008 was estimated by the Center for Immigration Studies to be about 12 million people, down from 12.5 million people in 2007.

https://en.wikipedia.org/.../Illegal_immigration_to_the_United_St...

The Wall Street Journal, known as being politically conservative, reports:

The population of illegal immigrants in the U.S. has stabilized at 11.2 million since the Great Recession, according to a new report, with their numbers declining in 14 states and rising in seven states from 2009 to 2012.

The independent Pew Research Center, which analyzed census data, concluded that the leveling off of the undocumented population nationally is a direct result of the shrinking of the undocumented Mexican population in the U.S. That trend was offset by a recent increase in illegal arrivals from Central America.

“The Mexican numbers have been going down significantly even as the national number of unauthorized immigrants remained constant,” said Jeff Passel, the center’s senior demographer. That resulted from both an increase in departures to Mexico and a decrease in arrivals from that country.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/undocum...-off-in-u-s-led-by-mexican-decline-1416330120

Note that is all groups not just Hispanics/Latino.

 

[Revmitchell]

There seems to be a number of people in our society that when they hear the word Hispanic or Latino they automatically think illegal.

What is that number and who are these people?

 

[Crabtownboy]

What is that number and who are these people?

Please ask an on-topic and intelligent question. I have no idea what people you are talking about. It is an open question with no identifiers.

 

[Revmitchell]

What we need to do is to stick with the rule of law and maintain our borders. Just because a block of voters who are legal residence of this country want American to ignore the rule of law and our borders does not mean that we should ignore our laws and our borders.

Also not all Hispanics support criminal illegal immigration. Failure to acknowledge that is to misrepresent those people and the issue.

 

[Lewis]

However the vast majority of Hispanics and/or Latinos are legal

That is in large measure because of the various amnesties over the years.

According to NumbersUSA, 5,703,000 have been given amnesty since 1986. And of course each time we are told that will be the end of it.

 

[Crabtownboy]

What we need to do is to stick with the rule of law and maintain our borders. Just because a block of voters who are legal residence of this country want American to ignore the rule of law and our borders does not mean that we should ignore our laws and our borders.

Let me try to get you on the topic by asking a question that is on the topic.

Q. What, in your opinion, should the GOP do to attract Hispanic voters?

Also not all Hispanics support criminal illegal immigration. Failure to acknowledge that is to misrepresent those people and the issue.

You are right. Glad you realize this.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Please ask an on-topic and intelligent question. I have no idea what people you are talking about. It is an open question with no identifiers.

It is YOUR statement being questioned. No wonder you don't want to answer it.

 

[Crabtownboy]

It is YOUR statement being questioned. No wonder you don't want to answer it.

Why, you never answer questions ... how about your try being on-topic and answer the simple question of what the GOP should do to try to win Hispanic voters?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

I don't want anybody voting for Democrats OR Republicans.


Now answer Mark's question. It's a good one, on-topic, merely asking you to clarify a statement.

 

[Crabtownboy]

I don't want anybody voting for Democrats OR Republicans.


Now answer Mark's question. It's a good one, on-topic, merely asking you to clarify a statement.

Well, that was not a rational answer. So, what should any party or group do to try to win the Hispanic vote?

 

[Lewis]

So, what should any party or group do to try to win the Hispanic vote?

I would say Hispanics want the same thing we all want: A growing economy and good jobs, safe schools and neighborhoods. Freedom of expression and religion. Also I assume they want secure borders.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Ask them.

Now what is the number and who are the people that think all Hispanics are legal ? Please. It's YOUR statement, and challenging it is both rational and on-topic.

 

[Revmitchell]

Ask them.

Now what is the number and who are the people that think all Hispanics are legal ? Please. It's YOUR statement, and challenging it is both rational and on-topic.

Did you mean people who are illegal?

 

[Crabtownboy]

Iwould say Hispanics want the same thing we all want: A growing economy and good jobs, safe schools and neighborhoods. Freedom of expression and religion. Also I assume they want secure borders.

Lewis, I agree. So, what does a party need to do to win their votes?

 

[Revmitchell]

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[Crabtownboy]

Ask them.

Now what is the number and who are the people that think all Hispanics are legal ? Please. It's YOUR statement, and challenging it is both rational and on-topic.

It is not clear as he did not identify what group he is asking about and it was off-topic. Try to understand, we are discussing what a political party needs to do to attract the Hispanic vote. Got it?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

If it's not clear why would you make such a statement ?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Did you mean people who are illegal?

That is correct, thank you.

 

[Lewis]

Lewis, I agree. So, what does a party need to do to win their votes?

I am not a political operative, but I assume that emphasizing those basics listed above would be the best policy.

I do not think that any party should pander to them by blocking deportations when it is called for by law.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Did you mean people who are illegal?

If the OP is read the number of illegal folk is given, though it is not an exact science. But the only numbers I have found deal with all illegals, not just Hispanics. Regardless, the topic is what should the GOP do to change the negative image a majority of the Hispanics have of them and their policies.