Unless I am totally mistaken, the ONLY viewpoint regarding eschatological viewpoint that is heretical would be full pretierist, so lets show some civility to each other on this issue, as its OK to be Amil/preMil/Historical premil etc"Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you" (Deut. 4:2).
Not only did you change Scripture, you mis-spelled your own position.
(And now I await more bile.)
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Historic Premillennialism and Daniel’s 70 Weeks
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I'm not aware of any bile I've sent his way.
You haven't just was trying to keep the peace
Thank you.
Alan Dale Gross
Active Member
That's called 'using words in a sentence', ye serpent, ye generations of vipers. No reason to cry about it. Wow wee.
Ah, I see what you mean. Dunno why you're crying about it, but I see what you mean. Wow wee.
Of course, you misspelt 'misspelled', but I'm not going to cry about it. Wow wee.
Alan Dale Gross
Active Member
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are all three man-made schemes required to have absolute dependence upon arguing from silence.
Continuing to profess either of these bright ideas is a choice to willingly hold to a belief, when knowing the...
What 'empty space' one asks, who pretends not to be able to read, when they are being knowingly ignorant?
The Bible is utterly silent with regard to adding...
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Because to do so forces an addition into the text.
And everyone has to already know from Deuteronomy 4:2 that is a behavior heavily censored by the Lord, especially since just two chapters over from Revelation 20:4, is Revelation 22:18 God is saying to everyone again, "I testify to everyone who hears the words of prophecy in this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book.."
The Lord Wrote those verses to everyone who can read or not, because as far as He's concerned, they have not been removed yet, so we might as well have all...
That leaves anything added as a product of men's vain imagination, where to avoid God's Judgment, we would be wise to:
Otherwise, we would be being Offensive to our All-Knowing God:
And in addition...
So, were we to conclude...
And then we have a Bible warrant to discard anything to do with...
or...
or any of its subsets,...
We are all in agreement.
Civil, no crying, and no bile.
Historical premel was the dominant viewpoint until Augustine brought in A mil position centuries laterand
and
are all three man-made schemes required to have absolute dependence upon arguing from silence.
Continuing to profess either of these bright ideas is a choice to willingly hold to a belief, when knowing the...
What 'empty space' one asks, who pretends not to be able to read, when they are being knowingly ignorant?
The Bible is utterly silent with regard to adding...
......................................................................................................................
Because to do so forces an addition into the text.
And everyone has to already know from Deuteronomy 4:2 that is a behavior heavily censored by the Lord, especially since just two chapters over from Revelation 20:4, is Revelation 22:18 God is saying to everyone again, "I testify to everyone who hears the words of prophecy in this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book.."
The Lord Wrote those verses to everyone who can read or not, because as far as He's concerned, they have not been removed yet, so we might as well have all...
That leaves anything added as a product of men's vain imagination, where to avoid God's Judgment, we would be wise to:
Otherwise, we would be being Offensive to our All-Knowing God:
And in addition...
So, were we to conclude...
And then we have a Bible warrant to discard anything to do with...
or...
or any of its subsets,...
We are all in agreement.
Civil, no crying, and no bile.
Alan Dale Gross
Active Member
Then, why does the Amil position fit EVERY OLD TESTAMENT PROPHECY, Like a Hand and in a Glove?
Every Old Testament Prophet was Amil., just like all these writers are now who went to Heaven.
Jesus was Amil and JESUS KNOWS HIS BIBLE.
All of the New Testament writers were Amil.
So, every Age, including the first two centuries, were full of Amil believers before Augustine.
Then, since Amil is what the Bible teaches, believers in Amil have been around since Adam and Job.
Then there are all those who were Amil all the way up to the Present Day, just like all these writers of the books and Study Bible Notes on Eschatology who are now Amil, who have gone on to be in Heaven.
Pre-, Post, Historic or not, and any and every other form and variation of them and Dispensational Premillennialism, etc., that claim an 'Earthly Reign of Jesus for a thousand years' are unbiblical, from the very start, as you probably already know.
Every other word of those other End Time Scenario proponents are practically all made up from man's imagination.*
There is no other way than Amil to see the Divine Interpretation of all the marvelous verses covering this issue of The End Times.
* You know what the problem is? All these writers and teachers who have any of these beliefs above, apart from Amil, have read the Book of Revelation, chapter by chapter, as if all of Revelation's chapters follow one after the other, and are to be read chronologically.
Then they read in Revelation 19 of Jesus' Return and unwittingly fall into the trap of Satan and just assume the events of Revelation 20 'HAVE TO BE' after Jesus' Second Coming.
That creates a trap in the form of a blank to fill. So, they think they have a need to come up with as an understanding once they are forced into a season of making up things to fit Revelation 20 in, AFTER THE EVENTS of Revelation 19.
But that just isn't in keeping with how Revelation is Divinely Structured, linguistically.
In fact, it is one Revelation in a Vision followed by a Deeper, more Complete Revelation, in the next Vision of Seven Total Visions in Revelation, and they are all encapsulating the same Period of Time, from Jesus' First Coming to Earth, until Jesus' Second Coming to Earth, at the End of Time, as if they are all stacked perfectly on top of one another, with each giving more and more detail than in the Vision before it, as we view them in that kind of transparent 'stack'.
Where the Vision involved in Revelation 19 ends at the Second Coming of Jesus, the last Vision in Revelation 20, begins at the time of Jesus First Coming again, the same way all Seven Visions begin and end.
That is the way to study it out.
And that's the only way.
- The end of all things has arrived as was prophesied:-> (Jeremiah 30:23-24 and Ezekiel 7:2, among many other biblical references)... To speak of peace now, it is to speak of sudden destruction, understand? ->(1Thessalonians 5:2-6, take a look).
And the Word shall judge among many people(John 12:48), and REBUKE STRONG (POWERFUL) NATIONS afar off;-->(AFAR OFF of ISRAEL)-> Micah 4:4 combined with 2Peter 3:7 and 10-13, and Revelation 11:18, take a look).
Our Lord JESUS warned (Alleluia!) and confirmed LITERALLY Daniel 12:1-3, saying:-> Matthew 24:21-24:
->21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And EXCEPT those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. 23 Then if any man shall say unto you->(Pastors, Bishops, Evangelists, etc.) Lo, here is Christ, or there->(John 5:43-47, take a look); BELIEVE IT NOT.
Our Lord JESUS also warned us(Alleluia!), saying:-> Luke 21:22-> For these be the days of VENGEANCE, that ALL THINGS which are WRITTEN(AS ABOVE, I say) may be fulfilled. ->Be prepared or else get ready
There are two situations of total destruction in which, before they were carried out, GOD provided escape for those who were His and instructed them on what they should do.
Now, faced with a new, complete destruction of the world, as it has been determined / prophesized, there is guidance that our GOD has left us in writing to put into practice and be protected.
Let's analyze and compare the pre-destruction situations so that we may all position ourselves according to the divine counsel of our GOD.
You need to keep your faith while you protect yourself amidst the destruction that will begin to occur from now on as recomended by Peter Apostle:->2Peter 3:11-13, take a look.
To compare moments before pre-total destructions which were executed by our GOD according Scriptures, lets see what GOD said to Noah before the destruction by the flood: -> Genesis 6:13-14 and 22:->
13 And GOD said unto Noah, The END of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will DESTROY them with the earth.-> (Compare with Revelation 11:18 which will fulfill LITERALLY from now on); 14 Make thee an Ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the Ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch. 22 Thus did Noah; according to all that GOD commanded him, so did he. GENESIS 7:1-> And the Lord said unto Noah:Come thou and all thy house into the Ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.
Therefore, the command of GOD to Noah before He destroy the world as a whole, it was:-> Enter you and all you family into the Ark.
And now, in this current time, before the DESTRUCTION of the current world of Devil from now on: -> what is the command of GOD, for us, i.e. for His people, to do? -> Isaiah 26:20-21:->
20 Come, my people, ENTER thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: HIDE thyself as it were for a little moment(LAST WEEK of years), until the INDIGNATION be overpast.->(Romans 2:5-11 combined with Revelation 11:18 and John 17:8-9, take a look).
21 For, behold, the Lord cometh out of His place to PUNISH the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity:->(LITERAL fulfillment of Micah 4:4 and 2Peter 3:7), the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain. -> There will be resurrection simultaneously: ->Isaiah 26:19 combined with Daniel 12:1-3; John 6:39-40 combined with 1Thessalonians 4:15.
Before the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, and neighboring cities, there was intercession to save the righteous, if there were 10 righteous there, the cities would not be destroyed by the messengers of the Lord. ->They said to Lot:-> Genesis 19:12-13:-
-> 12 And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place: 13 For we will DESTROY this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the Lord; and the Lord hath sent US to DESTROY it.
But now, even now, from now on, the world of Devil as a whole will be DESTROYED by the archangel Michael-> Daniel 12:1-3 combined with 1Thessalonians 4:16 and Revelation 12:7-17. This process of destruction of the Devil's world is already beginning. -> Be prepared or else get ready .
Our Lord JESUS said:-> 14 And this gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the END come.
The Word is GOD, GOD Himself, GOD Father, Father of our Lord JESUS Christ, our Father, Self-Executable, and is the bread of Life, bread of heaven, heavenly mannah, bread of the angels or of the mighty,
Let us pray:
Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever. Amen.
And the Word shall judge among many people(John 12:48), and REBUKE STRONG (POWERFUL) NATIONS afar off;-->(AFAR OFF of ISRAEL)-> Micah 4:4 combined with 2Peter 3:7 and 10-13, and Revelation 11:18, take a look).
Our Lord JESUS warned (Alleluia!) and confirmed LITERALLY Daniel 12:1-3, saying:-> Matthew 24:21-24:
->21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And EXCEPT those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. 23 Then if any man shall say unto you->(Pastors, Bishops, Evangelists, etc.) Lo, here is Christ, or there->(John 5:43-47, take a look); BELIEVE IT NOT.
Our Lord JESUS also warned us(Alleluia!), saying:-> Luke 21:22-> For these be the days of VENGEANCE, that ALL THINGS which are WRITTEN(AS ABOVE, I say) may be fulfilled. ->Be prepared or else get ready
There are two situations of total destruction in which, before they were carried out, GOD provided escape for those who were His and instructed them on what they should do.
Now, faced with a new, complete destruction of the world, as it has been determined / prophesized, there is guidance that our GOD has left us in writing to put into practice and be protected.
Let's analyze and compare the pre-destruction situations so that we may all position ourselves according to the divine counsel of our GOD.
You need to keep your faith while you protect yourself amidst the destruction that will begin to occur from now on as recomended by Peter Apostle:->2Peter 3:11-13, take a look.
To compare moments before pre-total destructions which were executed by our GOD according Scriptures, lets see what GOD said to Noah before the destruction by the flood: -> Genesis 6:13-14 and 22:->
13 And GOD said unto Noah, The END of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will DESTROY them with the earth.-> (Compare with Revelation 11:18 which will fulfill LITERALLY from now on); 14 Make thee an Ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the Ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch. 22 Thus did Noah; according to all that GOD commanded him, so did he. GENESIS 7:1-> And the Lord said unto Noah:Come thou and all thy house into the Ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.
Therefore, the command of GOD to Noah before He destroy the world as a whole, it was:-> Enter you and all you family into the Ark.
And now, in this current time, before the DESTRUCTION of the current world of Devil from now on: -> what is the command of GOD, for us, i.e. for His people, to do? -> Isaiah 26:20-21:->
20 Come, my people, ENTER thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: HIDE thyself as it were for a little moment(LAST WEEK of years), until the INDIGNATION be overpast.->(Romans 2:5-11 combined with Revelation 11:18 and John 17:8-9, take a look).
21 For, behold, the Lord cometh out of His place to PUNISH the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity:->(LITERAL fulfillment of Micah 4:4 and 2Peter 3:7), the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain. -> There will be resurrection simultaneously: ->Isaiah 26:19 combined with Daniel 12:1-3; John 6:39-40 combined with 1Thessalonians 4:15.
Before the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, and neighboring cities, there was intercession to save the righteous, if there were 10 righteous there, the cities would not be destroyed by the messengers of the Lord. ->They said to Lot:-> Genesis 19:12-13:-
-> 12 And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place: 13 For we will DESTROY this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the Lord; and the Lord hath sent US to DESTROY it.
But now, even now, from now on, the world of Devil as a whole will be DESTROYED by the archangel Michael-> Daniel 12:1-3 combined with 1Thessalonians 4:16 and Revelation 12:7-17. This process of destruction of the Devil's world is already beginning. -> Be prepared or else get ready .
Our Lord JESUS said:-> 14 And this gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the END come.
The Word is GOD, GOD Himself, GOD Father, Father of our Lord JESUS Christ, our Father, Self-Executable, and is the bread of Life, bread of heaven, heavenly mannah, bread of the angels or of the mighty,
Let us pray:
Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever. Amen.