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Historical Comparison: Finland's Winter War vs Russian Invasion of Ukraine

SavedByGrace

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If Val thinks that Russia can afford it, I won't be surprised if he does try again to take over Finland. Finland's desire to join NATO, is provoking the Russians, or actually Val, to respond with might, which I believe he will do. Question is, even if Russia did attack a NATO country, I doubt very much if any NATO country, will attack Russia, as this could lead to a nuclear WW3, where there will be no winners!

We in the "West" condemn what Russia has done to invade another country Ukraine, but we are also guilty of our own fake "war" in Iraq, with false documents presented by Bush and Blair, for which they should be tried for war crimes.
 

Conan

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Provoking Russia has to be one of the all time stupidest ideas there is. As mentioned by SBG, nuclear war could be the result. And who's fault would it be? The provoking nation. In this case the United States. If Trump was President, he would have never provoked Russia into invading Ukraine.
 

AustinC

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Provoking Russia has to be one of the all time stupidest ideas there is. As mentioned by SBG, nuclear war could be the result. And who's fault would it be? The provoking nation. In this case the United States. If Trump was President, he would have never provoked Russia into invading Ukraine.
Provoking would be attacking Russia. That has not been done since WWII. Russia is acting like a bully and using nukes as a bully tactic.
Sting's song, "Russians" is appropriate (off the Dream of the Blue Turtles album).
 

Conan

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Provoking would be attacking Russia. That has not been done since WWII. Russia is acting like a bully and using nukes as a bully tactic.
Sting's song, "Russians" is appropriate (off the Dream of the Blue Turtles album).
Your only hearing from "our" side. What the white house wants you to see.

We're were warned years ago not to put missiles on the border of Russia. Remember how we felt when they put missiles in Cuba? Remember how we had to take our missiles out of Turkey when they took theirs out of Cuba? We are hemming them in. The old Soviet Union fell long ago. We're taking advantage. We are actually dumb enough now to think we can win a nuclear war with Russia. You can't get any more wrong than that.
 

Squire Robertsson

Administrator
Administrator
As far as I know, no American missiles have been placed in Ukraine. With current tech, we don't need to. You are swallowing Putin's paranoia hook line and sinker.
 

Conan

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As far as I know, no American missiles have been placed in Ukraine. With current tech, we don't need to. You are swallowing Putin's paranoia hook line and sinker.
When they join Nato, thats when we would put missiles there. Putin drew a line. We crossed it.
 

Conan

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As far as I know, no American missiles have been placed in Ukraine. With current tech, we don't need to. You are swallowing Putin's paranoia hook line and sinker.
By the way. A launch from Ukraine to Russia would give them no response time. With todays tech.
 

AustinC

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Your only hearing from "our" side. What the white house wants you to see.

We're were warned years ago not to put missiles on the border of Russia. Remember how we felt when they put missiles in Cuba? Remember how we had to take our missiles out of Turkey when they took theirs out of Cuba? We are hemming them in. The old Soviet Union fell long ago. We're taking advantage. We are actually dumb enough now to think we can win a nuclear war with Russia. You can't get any more wrong than that.
LOL, and you are a Putin lapdog.
Putin still thinks he can resurrect the Old Soviet and/or the Russian Empire where the Tzar forced Ukrainians into subscription. This is why there are so many Mennonites, Baptists and Jews who emigrated from Ukraine to the US. Do you even know Russian history at all? Quit drinking the Putin Kool-Aid.
 

Conan

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LOL, and you are a Putin lapdog.
Putin still thinks he can resurrect the Old Soviet and/or the Russian Empire where the Tzar forced Ukrainians into subscription. This is why there are so many Mennonites, Baptists and Jews who emigrated from Ukraine to the US. Do you even know Russian history at all? Quit drinking the Putin Kool-Aid.
First, I hope you are right and I am wrong. That way we wouldn't be a wicked nation committing wickedness. But it's hard to believe that with all we have seen. Do you believe the US press? Certainly you see that we have a controlled news media? All their doing is spewing the party line. What the white house wants you to think. Anyone else that questions Bidens/Billionaires policy's drinks Putin's kool-aid? What, are you trying to say biden/billionaires are righteous people or something? Only Putin is evil in this world? The US could do no wrong. We all drank the kool-aid in gulf war 2. Even the head of the cia said he drank the kool-aid, knowing Sudam Hussian didn't really have weapons of mass destruction. We were wrong then, why aren't we wrong now. You believe our news media like their fair and balanced or something? You don't see them lying? Certainly you have seen radical changes in this country the last two years? If Trump was President, Putin would have not invaded. Because when Trump was President, Putin did not invade, that is a fact. I hope I am wrong and we are not a wicked nation, that the cia are not the bad guys. That our news media doesn't tell lies about Donald Trump, that our news media always tells the truth. That biden and the billionaires have nothing but good intentions. But I think that is denying all that I have seen the last 2-3 years.
 

Conan

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LOL, and you are a Putin lapdog.
Putin still thinks he can resurrect the Old Soviet and/or the Russian Empire where the Tzar forced Ukrainians into subscription. This is why there are so many Mennonites, Baptists and Jews who emigrated from Ukraine to the US. Do you even know Russian history at all? Quit drinking the Putin Kool-Aid.
 

Conan

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Is this video supposed to prove something?
Yes it is just a little peep into what bidon is like. He is not a person of freedom. He should not be representing America. He is clearly against freedom. Every time he tries to make a strike against the 2nd Amendment reveals his character. I was hoping you could see at least that. Perhaps we should drink no one's kool-aid, bidons or putins.
 

AustinC

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Yes it is just a little peep into what bidon is like. He is not a person of freedom. He should not be representing America. He is clearly against freedom. Every time he tries to make a strike against the 2nd Amendment reveals his character. I was hoping you could see at least that. Perhaps we should drink no one's kool-aid, bidons or putins.
You realize that Trump was Putins lapdog, yet you bring up Biden. LOL, no wonder you love Vlad.
 

Conan

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You realize that Trump was Putins lapdog, yet you bring up Biden. LOL, no wonder you love Vlad.
I am not anyones lap dog. That's just not telling the truth. That's just a cheep way to silence your opponent. I may be wrong, but I am not a lap dog. The cold war was over. Just because Russia is weakest now is no reason to take advantage. No reason to keeping hostile attitudes. Let nuclear dogs lay still.
 

Van

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I had to chuckle at the phrase "provoking Russia." During the run-up to WWII, lots of folks tried to "appease" and not "provoke" Mr Hitler. The invaders always claim the invaded had done and were doing something terribly wrong. :)
 
I had to chuckle at the phrase "provoking Russia." During the run-up to WWII, lots of folks tried to "appease" and not "provoke" Mr Hitler. The invaders always claim the invaded had done and were doing something terribly wrong. :)
Yes, the American natives have done and were doing something terribly wrong. Therefore, the invaders deliberately infected them with smallpox as early as 1763.

The Americans are developing biological weapons around the world. Biolaboratories of the Pentagon are also present in Ukraine.
 
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