homosexual invasion

Don, I must agree with you, but I also think America has done a lot of things that are pushing Christinity aside. Abortion and gambling also make for major lives of sin that are signs of the rejection of Christianity in our country. Although I do not know when the Lord is going to return. I see this as a sign of the times.

 

What we as Baptists should do is fight back, we should start programs to win all the homosexuals in our area to Christ, and out of homosexuality, we should also refuse to support them financialy meaning if there is a product you are thinking of buying that you know some of your money will go to support Gays we should eschew purchesing it, we should also not support them socialy meaning if there is a television show or movie on that we know has homosexual condoning materials you should not watch it Querr eye for the straight guy, Teletubies, and will and grace. are just to name a few.

your servant
fishnbread

 

We could start by inviting Sy Rogers to come and speak in our churches. His ideas on Homosexuality and how the church should react to that are the best that I have heard in a long time.

http://www.syrogers.org/

 

His site seems to be a big advertisment.Why don't you tell us what you know about him?

 

Billy Graham once presented a similar message on a TV show. He emphasized that instant "cures" were the exception rather than the rule, and reminded us that HETEROS must control their libidos also.

 

Homosexuality is now a full blown epidemic, operating in harmonic concurrence with the pouring out of the antichrist spirit, which began about 1994.

IMHO, our best strategy is to equip ourselves for case-by-case witnessing, planting the seed of the Word. Brutally honest, yet loving (agape). If we truly 'agape' the homosexual, there will be no compromise or tolerance of the sin, only a stone, cold, steel wall of truth. To do otherwise is to put them in jeopardy and risk their eternal future, too high of a price to pay if we truly love them.

For that matter, the same principle applies to other abominable sins and to sinners in general, it seems to me. I suspect the spirit of antichrist has never been more powerful, at least since the 1st century church, than it is right now and it shows no sign of slowing down. Maybe this is our opportunity to use the contrast provided by our obedience to Christ to our advantage, as a distinct weapon in the battlefield, unique in the perceived church, and allow the Holy Spirit to use the uncompromised, but still available, space created by His truth to His advantage in the sinner's soul.

I suspect the Lord needs warriors right now, strong, unyielding, and courageous - unwilling to wilt or compromise His truth and willing to work with the Holy Spirit. Certainly there won't be much room (or need) for the Holy Spirit to work if we continue to fill our auditoriums and churches with people to whom we've offered a purpose that consists primarily of self-fulfillment and entertainment.

 

I want to throw this out there as a possibility, not to start a meaningless argument.

What if Homosexuality is in fact an orientation and not a choice. I say this to help us consider the best way to demonstrate Christ's love for all people.

I am very heterosexual. I cannot even imagine a homosexual thought. I know for a fact that I personally cannot be even tempted with homosexuality. This leads me to think that it might be possible for some people to be by nature, and by that I mean genetic flaw or psychological conditioning, to be homosexual, and not by choice.

Don't jump to any conclusions please. Behavior in all matters of life is the main issue. Any person who is in love with God, especially the God we find in Jesus, and at the same time is confronted with the fact that they are totally oriented sexually toward the same sex, is going to struggle, and need help in this struggle.

Some have struggled and prayed hard and long only to discover that God is not delivering them from their orientation. But due to their trust in God, they choose celebacy.(Very noble on their part.) Others have discovered that God can and does deliver them and enable them to in fact become, heterosexuals. Others, ask us to accept them for what they are, and ask us to let them live as homosexuals in a relationship that is monogomous, as any heterosexual reloationship should be.

My question is based upon Jesus strong warnings against casting stones. Heterosexual sin is far more devestating to our society than homosexual sin. All we have to do is look at the statistics regarding unwanted pregnancy and sexually transmitted disease. I really do not see a homosexual threat. What I do see is an inability on the part of many Christians to treat homosexuals as human beings, and with that, an effort to at least try an understand homosexuality itself.

Please do not interpret this as an effort to defend homosexuality. I am simply trying to get a discussion going in the direction of compassion and understanding, so we can combat the most devastating evil of hating homosexuals, trashing homosexuals, making fun of homosexuals, etc.

Your thought would be appreciated and revealing.

 

Please do not interpret this as an effort to defend homosexuality. I am simply trying to get a discussion going in the direction of compassion and understanding

Just who do you think we are??

Christians or something???

Oh wait...

We are.

O.K.

 

God bless you Charles. We are Christian I hope. That is the whole point. And by being true Christians we should relate to all people with the compassion of the Christ.

 

1994? If I'm not mistaken, according to the scriptures it started a while before that.

 

David made a good point, which summed up is: hate the sin and love the sinner. We are to do that no matter what the sin is. Our nation is being destroyed from within, and homosexuality is not the only evil that is the cause:
abortion--murder (this is high on my list)
rape
pedophilia
pornography
internet abuse of all kinds--such as porn, child porn, etc.
spousal and child abuse
general immorality of all kinds
the evils of all cults and world religions. (only Christianity can bring true and lasting peace)

This list could go on and on. I am sure that all of you could add to it. Hate the sin and love the sinner. I had the opportunity of leading a young man to the Lord last week who just recently got out of jail. Should we shun those who are down and out because of the depths of sin that they are in. God forbid!
DHK

 

I hate people who post just one line.

So far, I have posted two, so now...

AMEN BROTHER A-M-E-N !!!

 

Then please explain this scripture:
Psalms 5:5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

 

When Billy Graham says that instant "cures" were the exception rather than the rule, and says that heterosexuals must control their libidos also, he IS telling it like it is. I prefer that to Fallwell's "9-11 was the fault of gays and lesbians" comment, which is ANYTHING BUT like it is.

 

It is part of an imprecatory Psalm, where the psalmist prays or asks for judgement upon the wicked. We don't pray that way anymore. This is an age of grace. The Old Testament believer often saw God's justice as being meted out in his prayer. Look at verse six of the same Psalm:

Psalms 5:6 Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.

Consider this prayer, and consider if you would pray in this manner:

Psalms 109:6-20 Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand. When he shall be judged, let him be condemned: and let his prayer become sin. Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow. Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places. Let the extortioner catch all that he hath; and let the strangers spoil his labour. Let there be none to extend mercy unto him: neither let there be any to favour his fatherless children. Let his posterity be cut off; and in the generation following let their name be blotted out. Let the iniquity of his fathers be remembered with the LORD; and let not the sin of his mother be blotted out. Let them be before the LORD continually, that he may cut off the memory of them from the earth. Because that he remembered not to shew mercy, but persecuted the poor and needy man, that he might even slay the broken in heart. As he loved cursing, so let it come unto him: as he delighted not in blessing, so let it be far from him. As he clothed himself with cursing like as with his garment, so let it come into his bowels like water, and like oil into his bones. Let it be unto him as the garment which covereth him, and for a girdle wherewith he is girded continually. Let this be the reward of mine adversaries from the LORD, and of them that speak evil against my soul.
DHK