honest question to PB's and Reformed's II

okay, the other thread with the same title minus the "!!" is on its 5th or 6th page and I think is about to be closed, besides which it has veered off topic already so I'm starting this one. apologies.

I just found the publication where I read the article which spurred the question but let me give some backgrounders or groundwork or whatever y'all want to call it.

I believe in LIMITED ATONEMENT.
But what I understand is that Limited Atonement is all part and parcel of the Election package.
That is, like Redemption, Salvation, Adoption, etc., the whole shebang applied to ALL THE ELECT, whether they are gospelly saved, or not.

However, this article seems to be saying that Limited Atonement is for the gospelly saved.
Now, maybe I am misunderstanding what the author (who will remain unnamed, but IS Primitive Baptist) is simply saying that Limited Atonement is proved to be FOR the elect (all of them) only by the fact that out of a fallen humanity, not all will respond to the gospel message and call for obedience.

So, here is what the author stated, or wrote:


Who is He ?
Matthew 1:21 "And she shall bear a son, and they shall call his name Jesus, for he shall save his people from their sins. (So, Jesus is the one that shall save his people.

Who are His people ? Are they all of Adam's race ?
Psalm 100:3 : Know ye that the Lord, he is God. It is he that hath made us, and not we ourselves; we are his people, and the sheep of his pasture.

Then his people are sheep. Who are the sheep ? John 10:29 "My father which gave them me...."

So the sheep are the ones the Father gave his son.
John 6:37 - All that the Father giveth me, shall come to me.

Who is it that comes to him ? The ones the Father gave him.
Do all come to Jesus ? No.
Then if all do not come, then all were not given, then we have a limited atonement proven.

Will my fellow PB's comment on this, please ?
Is limited atonement applied only to those AMONG THE ELECT who come to Jesus ?
Or does he mean, they who come to Jesus, FROM the elect, prove that atonment is limited to the elect only, since not all of Adam's race are his people.
I lean towards the last one, but I need some comments.
thank you.

 

Brother, please do not find offense at my thick-headedness.
But while your answer shows that not all the redeemed (house of Israel) will be obedient and therefore experience gospel blessings and timely salvation the question was not about timely blessings and timely salvation.
The gist of the question was does limited atonement (of the blood of Christ) therefore cover NOT ALL OF THE HOUSE of Israel, but only those WITHIN the house of Israel who were obedient ?
IOW, is limited atonement (not timely blessings or timely salvation) only for those who are obedient. while those who do hear the gospel and not obey do not benefit from it ?
If this is so, then is the whole package of election minus one (limited atonement) for those who will never have the opportunity to come into gospel instruction in this lifetime for various reasons ?
please take a second look at the article and the bolded and colored section.
to put it more clearly: is limited atonement the same as gospel salvation ?
this is what I am understanding from your reply.
thank you, and God bless.

 

I posted part of it above in the first post.
but on the other hand, I think I will simply write the elder and ask him what he means.
thanks for your patience with me.

 

because clearly the Bible says the Book of Life, in which all the names of God's people are, was written from the foundation of the world.

because eternal salvation is absolutely passive to the elect. they have no participation in it, not even hearing the gospel.

because if hearing, trusting and obeying were prerequisites to eternal salvation, then no one began to be saved until the gospel began to be preached, people began to hear, and disciples (students) began to obey.

because along with the faculty of hearing comes the ability to understand and grasp, which babies, infants, and those in the womb do not have, neither do those who have been born with mental challenges, and to insist that the elect must hear in order to be saved is to damn these to eternal perdition based on their age and/or deformities.

because God is altogether merciful and gracious.

finally, the question is not concerning salvation, whether eternal or timely.
the question is about the atonement.
is the atonement applied only to those among the elect who obey ?
that question came about since the author took his example from national Israel, which is representative of spiritual Israel, and not of all mankind.