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How authentic is today's Bible?

NDINTEK KENNEDY

New Member
Hello everyone,

I am Kennedy. I am new here. I am a Christian and I fellowship with the Cameroon Baptist Convention.
I believed and received Jesus Christ into my life in 1996 during my first year in secondary school. Before then, I used to follow my parents to church but only consciously knew God and His design for humanity (including me) in 1996.

I have grown most of my life in Church; contributing in my own little way to the growth of the Body of Christ. When I gave my life to Jesus, I was barely 12 years old. My world view of things and understanding of deep biblical truths was still shallow. My IQ, not having developed enough, then, I did not question a lot of things that were taught to me at Sunday Schools and other Christian gatherings. This was partly too because we were told it was not a good thing to question the things of God. But as my ability to think critically about information and to make the right judgements about the values of life (truth, love, Man's conscience and humanity as a whole) improved, I started noticing some information in the Bible that weren't clear to me. I began asking questions. Sometime tough and hard questions.

Honestly, the questions that I have been asking for many years now have earned me quite some "bad" reputation in the minds of some Christian folks who, not being able to answer these questions have interpreted my inquisitiveness to mean that I do not have faith in God and that I reason with the "flesh" and not in the "Spirit". In other words, they consider that I am being carnal and full of human reasoning. But deep inside of me, I know that God knows that I know that I have faith in Him and that my trust in Him is unshakable. I also know that I am not a perfect Christian. I really wish I could be perfect and I do want to be.

But in as much as I know that there are things about God we, mortal humans, cannot question and should not question; there are other issues recorded in the Bible that raise questions in the minds of every right thinking human. And frankly, I think the approach of the Church should be to give the right teachings and provide honest answers to these questions (if the answers exist) and not to forbid people from questioning the Bible.

The few people who have attempted to provide answers to some of the questions that I have asked, have, in the most part, made speculations based on what other researchers have done with no clear answers to the questions. Most of my respondents have had a rather subjective approach; making personal interpretations of Bible information and wanting to force their views down my throat, irrespective of whether they judged I was convinced or not.

Given the many inconsistencies and illogical flow of information in the Bible, I have come to the near conclusion that the Bible as we have today has lost its authenticity. I may be wrong. That's why I keep asking the questions and I will keep asking until I find the convincing answers.

My first question is:

1. Does the Bible, as we have today, maintain its ORIGINAL value in terms of Truth as spoken by God and recorded by those through whom God inspired the recordings? Is it not possible that influential people, across generations in history, have adulterated the Bible with subjective content, for reasons only God knows? My thinking is that God is Perfect, He does not make mistakes and therefore whatever He says MUST have logical consistency. And the reason we have some inconsistencies and half-truths in the Bible is because humans tampered with its content?

My several other questions would follow depending on your responses to this first question.

Thank you and God bless you all.
 

Marooncat79

Well-Known Member
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Hello thank You and Welcome

Yes, the Bible is without error and can be trusted in all things that it addresses ex: Bible does not address 2+2=4, but it does address Creation, God, Christ, the Law, Redemption/Salvation, the Christian Life and Christs Return.

There are many human works which have set out to prove the validity of scripture. There are almost 6,000 fragments of the NT which all point to the same thing ie Jesus being the Son of God who came to save sinners. The manuscripts agree on prob over 95% of what they say. Ex sometimes, a text may say Jesus, while another may say Lord Jesus.

We constantly compare modern translations to these manuscripts in order to make sure that they are a faithful witness to as far back in history that we can go. The christians from the earliest of times were very careful to be faithful in translating Gods Word.

I am unsure what you mean by inconsistencies in the Bible. Please explain?

I hope this helps
 

Marooncat79

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There are actually bits and fragments of text from about 100 or so yrs after the life of Jesus which is very early.

Also, there are more and better manuscripts to prove that Jesus lived than Julius Caesar. Think about that!

Pretty cool
 

Marooncat79

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Site Supporter
please tell me more about you

I work w a lot of pastors in Africa

Private message me if you desire
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

Well-Known Member
NK, welcome to the board.

Your English sounds more educated than that of many on the Internet. Your desire to be honest is laudable. One can understand that you would prefer not to have to speculate about answers. However, you do realize that you yourself are offering a huge speculation, don’t you?

How about sharing an example of what you feel is an insurmountable inconsistency, along with the explanation(s) you find unacceptable and why. That might help facilitate discussion.
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
Welcome to the board.

I would say the Bibles we have today are more accurate than those around for most of the Christian faith.

We just have to remember that they are translations and while varients exist in manuscripts doctrine is consistent.
 

robycop3

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Modern translators have more tools to use than the translators of the past, such as computers. Also, there have been a great many Scriptural manuscripts discovered in modern times that were unknown to the translators of the past.

Don't be alarmed by the fact that many of those ancient mss. don't match word-for-word. If a certain event is witnessed by four people, & they're asked to write accounts of that event, there will be four different accounts. But I believe GOD made sure that the descriptions of events He wanted to be recorded were written accurately. Same for all beliefs & doctrines He wanted us to have.

Yes, I believe today's Bibles are the most-accurate ones yet. The ancient peoples didn't have collections of all God's messages for man in one book as we now have.
 

Van

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Site Supporter
Hello Kennedy,
I believe, along with many others, the inspired text, as originally written, was accurate and reliable as God's word. Over time, due to unintentional and intentional alterations, our version of the inspired word contains corruptions. However, due to God's preservation, our copy is still reliable,. trustworthy, and suitable for God's purpose.

Many times you will see efforts to undercut the authority of the Bible by pointing our inconsistencies in numbers or spelling and such. However, this in no way should cause us to doubt God's special revelation.

We know that the transmission of the Bible (from the original hand written text down through many copies) has introduced some errors, but we also know the message and instructions to us have not be altered. When the Dead Sea documents were discovered (late 1940's) we found that our earliest copies (from about 1000 AD) were very much the same as those copies from about 1000 years earlier. Thus transmission had not significantly introduced errors.
 

37818

Well-Known Member
Hello everyone,

I am Kennedy. I am new here. I am a Christian and I fellowship with the Cameroon Baptist Convention.
I believed and received Jesus Christ into my life in 1996 during my first year in secondary school. Before then, I used to follow my parents to church but only consciously knew God and His design for humanity (including me) in 1996.

I have grown most of my life in Church; contributing in my own little way to the growth of the Body of Christ. When I gave my life to Jesus, I was barely 12 years old. My world view of things and understanding of deep biblical truths was still shallow. My IQ, not having developed enough, then, I did not question a lot of things that were taught to me at Sunday Schools and other Christian gatherings. This was partly too because we were told it was not a good thing to question the things of God. But as my ability to think critically about information and to make the right judgements about the values of life (truth, love, Man's conscience and humanity as a whole) improved, I started noticing some information in the Bible that weren't clear to me. I began asking questions. Sometime tough and hard questions.

Honestly, the questions that I have been asking for many years now have earned me quite some "bad" reputation in the minds of some Christian folks who, not being able to answer these questions have interpreted my inquisitiveness to mean that I do not have faith in God and that I reason with the "flesh" and not in the "Spirit". In other words, they consider that I am being carnal and full of human reasoning. But deep inside of me, I know that God knows that I know that I have faith in Him and that my trust in Him is unshakable. I also know that I am not a perfect Christian. I really wish I could be perfect and I do want to be.

But in as much as I know that there are things about God we, mortal humans, cannot question and should not question; there are other issues recorded in the Bible that raise questions in the minds of every right thinking human. And frankly, I think the approach of the Church should be to give the right teachings and provide honest answers to these questions (if the answers exist) and not to forbid people from questioning the Bible.

The few people who have attempted to provide answers to some of the questions that I have asked, have, in the most part, made speculations based on what other researchers have done with no clear answers to the questions. Most of my respondents have had a rather subjective approach; making personal interpretations of Bible information and wanting to force their views down my throat, irrespective of whether they judged I was convinced or not.

Given the many inconsistencies and illogical flow of information in the Bible, I have come to the near conclusion that the Bible as we have today has lost its authenticity. I may be wrong. That's why I keep asking the questions and I will keep asking until I find the convincing answers.

My first question is:

1. Does the Bible, as we have today, maintain its ORIGINAL value in terms of Truth as spoken by God and recorded by those through whom God inspired the recordings? Is it not possible that influential people, across generations in history, have adulterated the Bible with subjective content, for reasons only God knows? My thinking is that God is Perfect, He does not make mistakes and therefore whatever He says MUST have logical consistency. And the reason we have some inconsistencies and half-truths in the Bible is because humans tampered with its content?

My several other questions would follow depending on your responses to this first question.

Thank you and God bless you all.
God in His word is fully faithful. The problems we face are with our Bibles are we as interpteters, even with His help, we are not inerrant. The translations are not what is inerrant. The known variant readings are a known cause of difficualty for us. God knows this, and God keeps His word for us. Isaiah 55:11.
 
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