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Featured How did Repubs "mess up" Obamacare?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Don, Oct 20, 2013.

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  1. Don

    Don Well-Known Member
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    It was stated a couple of weeks ago that Republicans added to or changed the ACA, causing it to now not be as good as it was originally written.

    In all sincerity, I would like to know any/all specific changes made by Republicans, Independents, Green Party, and/or any other non-Democratic representatives or senators that changed the ACA into what we have as of October 1, 2013.
     
    #1 Don, Oct 20, 2013
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    The problems with Obamacare go back to George W. Bush, as you know.
     
    #2 church mouse guy, Oct 21, 2013
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    To my limited knowledge, the bill passed by Congress and the President had no Republications input.
    No changes have been allowed by the Senate.

    The changes to the bill were made by the President without congressional approval.

    Many Republican State Governors failed to develop the infrastructure for the program - - - so the federal government had to do it.

    Rob
     
    #3 Deacon, Oct 21, 2013
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    To my knowledge they improved it:

    http://townhall.com/columnists/rach...urce=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl
     
    #4 Revmitchell, Oct 21, 2013
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    I am not sure if this helps answer your question or not;
     
    #5 Crabtownboy, Oct 21, 2013
  6. Don

    Don Well-Known Member
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    In context of the thread title - how did this make Obamacare worse?
     
    #6 Don, Oct 21, 2013
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    Not my call. Just posted it for information.
     
    #7 Crabtownboy, Oct 21, 2013
  8. Don

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    Sorry, took me a while to find it; here's the exact wording that the thread title refers to:
    The final product was seriously flawed by the Republicans' changes.

    So, going back to the OP: What were the Republican changes that resulted in the ACA being seriously flawed?

    Please, ACA supporters - your credibility is on the line.
     
    #8 Don, Oct 21, 2013
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    Don Well-Known Member
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    If you're going to participate in a thread, then please participate. Did the one Republican change you brought our attention to make the ACA better, worse, or negligible impact?
     
    #9 Don, Oct 21, 2013
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    Don't even try to explain things any more than that. Somebody is looking for a reason to argue that Republican input did not make the bill worse. If he wants to say that it didn't, he should just say it and call it a day.:laugh:
     
    #10 Zaac, Oct 21, 2013
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    All your or Crabby have to do is cite one change -- a single line or word -- Republican lawmakers were able to make in the ACA, and the discussion is over.

    Waiting ...
     
    #11 thisnumbersdisconnected, Oct 21, 2013
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    Didn't CTB do that in post #5?
     
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    No, nothing there shows how the repubs messed up obamacare it did not address the op in any way.
     
    #13 Revmitchell, Oct 21, 2013
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    Agreed. In fact, it was a bone thrown to the GOP by a House- and Senate-ful of Democrats who didn't have to do anything. They had the votes without going outside the party. And the subsidies are likely something they wanted anyway. They just let the GOP have credit for it. The truth is, there is no way the GOP had any influence over anything in this misbegotten disaster of a program.
     
    #14 thisnumbersdisconnected, Oct 21, 2013
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    Actually, some in the GOP tried to stop it. You saw what that earned them from the "Christians" on this board.
     
    #15 Bro. Curtis, Oct 21, 2013
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    Yep. Found this this morning on Google Images. It may show up in my signature.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Don Well-Known Member
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    And there ya have it, folks. No need to provide facts, discuss them, or even attempt to base your argument on reality. Just accept what the other side says and call it a day.

    And people wonder why Zaac isn't taken seriously.

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    Edited to add:
    When you're too lazy to actually look things up for yourself, and take to parroting the "party line," you *have* to resort to arguments like "don't even try to explain things." When you're afraid that the information you'll find will actually be counter to what you've been spouting, you *have* to resort to "don't even try to explain things."

    Supporters of the ACA have been given an opportunity to educate me and possibly change my mind. I don't see them lining up to even attempt to prove themselves correct.

    I despise intellectual dishonesty.
     
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    You keep on waiting. What am I gonna cite it for? I'm not for socialized medicine. I just got enough sense to recognize the partnership when I see it. :laugh:
     
    #18 Zaac, Oct 21, 2013
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    An answer that comes nowhere near responding to the point.

    Which was what this was supposed to be.


    But as Don said ...

    ... which was where you chimed in ...

    ... which is where I said, "Waiting ... "

    And I still am, because you're off-topic, or ignoring the original question. Just to clarify for those who don't have a program to follow the players. :smilewinkgrin:
     
    #19 thisnumbersdisconnected, Oct 21, 2013
  20. Zaac

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    Which is where I said keep waiting. I'm much more Constitutionally conservative than the majority of ya. I'm just not angry about it.:laugh:
     
    #20 Zaac, Oct 21, 2013
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