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How Do YOU Interprete" God was in Christ reconciling World to Himself"

JesusFan

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that he forgave original Sin of Adam, no longer applying that to us, that we all have a level playing field, no longer dead in our sins, or what?

HIOW do you see this in relation to salvation?
 

Iconoclast

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that he forgave original Sin of Adam, no longer applying that to us, that we all have a level playing field, no longer dead in our sins, or what?

HIOW do you see this in relation to salvation?

This verse teaches that God has elect people all over the world.

He has reconciled them In Christ. The gospel goes world wide to reach these elect persons who are scattered...

How do we know it is speaking of elect sheep?

Simple because the ungodly at the white throne judgement are cast into hell showing that they were never reconciled to God.

Jesus will say....depart from me...I NEVER KNEW YOU.

51And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;

52And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad.

26Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent.

27For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him.

28And though they found no cause of death in him, yet desired they Pilate that he should be slain.

29And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre.

30But God raised him from the dead:

31And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people.

32And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers,

33God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.

34And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David.

35Wherefore he saith also in another psalm, Thou shalt not suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

36For David, after he had served his own generation by the will of God, fell on sleep, and was laid unto his fathers, and saw corruption:

37But he, whom God raised again, saw no corruption.

38Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:

39And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

40Beware therefore, lest that come upon you, which is spoken of in the prophets;

41Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you.

42And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.

43Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.
 

Tom Butler

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that he forgave original Sin of Adam, no longer applying that to us, that we all have a level playing field, no longer dead in our sins, or what?

HIOW do you see this in relation to salvation?

First, we have to define "world." It seems obvious that it cannot mean every person without exception. II Cor 5:19 refers to a group called "the world." This same "world" is the number of people to whom God will not impute their sins. These are the same people to whom God was in Christ reconciling himself.

If "world" is everybody, then God is not imputing anybody's trespasses to them, and everybody is saved.

So, "world" is not everybody, and God is not imputing trespasses to those with whom he is reconciled in Christ Jesus.

So our ministry of reconciliation is to join with Paul in beseeching all who will listen, on Christ's behalf, to be reconciled to God.
 

Skandelon

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2 Peter 2:1 teaches, " But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, and will bring swift destruction on themselves."

Romans 5:18: So then, as through one trespass there is condemnation for everyone, so also through one righteous act there is life-giving justification for everyone.

The atonement of Christ is universal (meant to be genuinely offered to all men through the gospel appeal) but provisional (with a provision by which the recipient must repent and believe in order to receive its benefit).

The example of the snake lifted on the pole is a perfect example. It was provide for all Israel, but only was effective if the person looked to the snake for healing.
 

AresMan

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2 Peter 2:1 teaches, " But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, and will bring swift destruction on themselves."
This verse is not saying that these false prophets were purchased with the blood of Christ.

Master = δεσποτην ("despot" or sovereign ruler)
bought = αγορασαντα ("bought" as from a slave market)


The context is that of analogy to Jews of old who were denying the sovereign God (Father) who bought them out of Egypt.

Exo 15:16 Fear and dread shall fall upon them; by the greatness of thine arm they shall be as still as a stone; till thy people pass over, O LORD, till the people pass over, which thou hast purchased.

Deu 32:6 Do ye thus requite the LORD, O foolish people and unwise? is not he thy father that hath bought thee? hath he not made thee, and established thee?
 

JesusFan

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2 Peter 2:1 teaches, " But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, and will bring swift destruction on themselves."

Romans 5:18: So then, as through one trespass there is condemnation for everyone, so also through one righteous act there is life-giving justification for everyone.

The atonement of Christ is universal (meant to be genuinely offered to all men through the gospel appeal) but provisional (with a provision by which the recipient must repent and believe in order to receive its benefit).

The example of the snake lifted on the pole is a perfect example. It was provide for all Israel, but only was effective if the person looked to the snake for healing.

haven't you though posted at times that god "leveled the playing field" when he reconciled World to Himself in Christ on the Cross...

What did you mean by that?
 
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