How was Goliath killed?

[Allan]

Actually, >>>Edited<<< 2 Sam describes 4 Sons of Gath and one gaint of Gath
I used the wrong Book and chapter in my first rendition of writing this.

Let us look at the scripture (I am not disagreeing with you, and am using the KJV actually)

- Davids servant Abishai - Kills - Giant of Gaths son Ishbibenob
- Davids servant Sibbechai - Kills - Giant of Gaths son Saph
- Davids servant Elhanan - Kills - Giant of Gaths son Lahmi (Goliaths brother)
- Davids servant Jonathan - Kills - Gaint of Gaths son (no name)

Parallel verses (speaking of three of the sons of the gaint of Gath) in I Chr 20: 1-5

However, since his (the son of the Gaint of Gath) features resemble both in size and features (fingers, toes) of a previously known giant who was in Gath, and since this Goliath is named as the brother of Lahmi. Also since each of these gaints are described in vs 8 as the sons of the Giant of Gath, AND since it names FOUR names concerning these Giants (who are the sons of the Gaint of Gath) A description also follows the third giant slain (who is the brother of Goliath) which we can see it goes directly into describing a third giant with no name SPECIFIED but can be implied from previous sentence. And again, since it is a story about the slayings of the SONS of Gath, and Four names are given we can infer and deduce from all the above the name of the third giant is Goliath - the SON OF the Gaint of Gath who is ALSO named Goliath the one whom David slew.

- David - Kills - Goliath the Gaint of Gath

I Sam 17:4 And there went out a champion out of the camp of the Philistines, named Goliath, of Gath

2 Sam 21:16 And Ishbibenob, which was of the sons of the giant, the weight of whose spear weighed three hundred shekels of brass in weight, he being girded with a new sword, thought to have slain David. 17 But Abishai the son of Zeruiah succoured him, and smote the Philistine, and killed him. Then the men of David sware unto him, saying, Thou shalt go no more out with us to battle, that thou quench not the light of Israel. 18 And it came to pass after this, that there was again a battle with the Philistines at Gob: then Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Saph, which was of the sons of the giant. 19 And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaareoregim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver’s beam. 20 And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant. 21 And when he defied Israel, Jonathan the son of Shimeah the brother of David slew him. 22 These four were born to the giant in Gath, and fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants.

KJV

 

[Ed Edwards]

Explaining the scripture with the scripture:

Joh 14:12-13 (KJV1611 Edition):
Uerely, verely I say vnto you, he that beleeueth on me,
the works that I doe, shall hee doe also,
and greater workes then these shall he doe,
because I goe vnto my Father.
Joh 14:13 And whatsoeuer ye shall aske
in my Name, , that will I doe,
that the Father may be glorified in the Sonne.

If one understands the nature of authority and
understands one person acting 'in the name' of another;
then one can see that when one of David's men
slay one of the giant family, it was also slain
by David himself.

I remember when I was 11 and taught to
'pray in the name of Jesus' or actually
"ask in Jesus' name" my sister got it
wrong and ended her prayer
not with 'in the name of Jesus, AMEN'
but "ask in Jesus' name, AMEN!"
No this is NOT what Jesus mean.
Jesus meant to ACT ON HIS BEHALF.

I know when I got to use my boss'es signature
stamp (I was acting 'in his name') I made real
sure that what I signed is what he would have
signed, had he been there. The emphasis is
on "REAL SURE'.

Oh, BTW and on topic:
according to the meaning of 'slay' and the
Hebrew word translated that way; Goliath
WAS SLAIN by the stone
and WAS SLAIN by his own sword in the hand of David.

 

[Diggin in da Word]

Ed,

What's your take on Lahmi being both a son of and a brother to Goliath?

 

[Brother Bob]

What's your take on Lahmi being both a son of and a brother to Goliath?

I not Ed but we both from Ky, where they accuse us of the family tree not branching off. Kissing cousins, you know?

Looks bad on the mother is all I can say.

 

[Ed Edwards]

Diggin in da Word: //What's your take on Lahmi being both
a son of and a brother to Goliath?//

Brother Bob: //I not Ed but we both from Ky, where they accuse us of the family tree not branching off. Kissing cousins, you know?
Looks bad on the mother is all I can say.//

I'm going to agree with Brother Bob here. However,
I'm the Oklahoma Ed. I understand that 'welfare heaven' here
also has some family trees that don't branch ???

Or maybe there were two Lahmi fellows - both big brusers??

The Goliath family reminds
me of the Selmon Brothers of Eufaula, Oklahoma -
had the whole front line on the football offensive
team. They played for OU back
in the late 1970s. One of them (Leroy probably) couldn't
tell if the quarterback or the halfback had the ball.
He picked them both up and started running with them.
The ref made him put them down; the ref placed the
ball back where he had picked them up. :laugh:

 

[Charles Meadows]

Given the size of Goliath one would guess that he had a pituitary adenoma, a tumor producing growth hormone. Head trauma could cause hemorrhage in the gland with ensuing circulatory collapse, and soon thereafter (if not treated medically) death. This is called pituitary apoplexy.

The blow to the head was a fatal injury - and David did it without a sword - although Goliath's heart was probably still beating when he hit the ground. Following this David cut his head off with a sword.

In the text the two forms seem to be in different binyanim - one is a hiphil and the other a polel - an atypical piel form. It seems the effect is rhetorical and does not intend to mean anything other than what the text plainly says.

 

[Allan]

The blow to the head was a fatal injury - and David did it without a sword - although Goliath's heart was probably still beating when he hit the ground. Following this David cut his head off with a sword.

I agree with this, since fatal doesn't neccesitate immediate death but a guarenteed death. So He was dieing, (slain - coming) and David cut of His head (slain - immediate)