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I am not Reformed.

JesusFan

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Posted for the purpose of obfuscation. Word play. Real Calvinists affirm all 5 points, but genuine Calvinists sometimes waver on 1 or 2 points. Anyone make up false claims.
Unless hold to all 5 points, would not be considered to be a calvinist
 

Van

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A Normal Calvinist does not believe Christ died as a ransom for all.
A Normal Calvinist does not believe many lost individuals will seek the narrow door, but not find it.
A Normal Calvinist does not believe God is the author of sin, thus an open theist.
A Normal Calvinist does not believe the lost can understand some spiritual things, even though many seek the narrow door.

I could go on, but you get the idea, Calvinists hide their actual beliefs behind a smokescreed of vague verbiage.
 

atpollard

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A Normal Calvinist does not believe Christ died as a ransom for all.
Did Christ die as a ransom for Satan and my Rottweiler?
[I think "all" needs at least some clarification. Clearly it does not mean "all" in the broadest imaginable sense of redeeming fallen angels and all dogs go to heaven.]

So "normal calvinists" are not alone in questioning the meaning of "all".
 
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