I know a gal who is into something called "Hebraic roots". From what i read of her postings it seems they hold to the OT laws AND claim to live under NT grace.
I do not see how one can do that. She says they tithe, instead of giving (different stuff) and offer small scarifices on an altar... i thought Jesus became the last sacrifice.
Anyway i know what i believe, i am just not sure how best to minister to her on this.
I do not see how a body can claim Christ and yet follow the jewish laws...
Here is a basic post she made on this:
"Well, Hebraic roots Christians generally believe the Old Testament is in full force and effect and that all appointed times (feasts and such) and commandments are still to be observed, including the Sabbath. Most of us eat according to the guidelines in the scripture and keep the feasts as commanded; Passover, Tabernacles, and others and don't adhere to the world's standards when it comes to food, special days. We really do ask ourselves, "What would Yeshua do?" but our answers are often different than those of our mainstream Christian brothers and sisters answers.
We believe in YHWH and that His son, Yeshua HaMashiach died on the cross for our sins and the sins of others. We believe He was buried, rose again, and will someday return.
In general, we're very cognizant of the fact the Jesus was Hebrew and practiced the Jewish faith as it was *at that time*. (It took my mother years to just accept the fact that Jesus was a practicing Jew and that Christianity as practiced today was NOT the faith of Jesus or his apostles) We don't believe He did away with the Old Testament, as so many think, but came to make it full, to expand it, to make it better, clearer, more joyful, etc. We think that because when the scripture is read from the Hebraic perspective, so much is seen that simply isn't visible otherwise. In other words, the scripture doesn't say he did away with the law - that's a misunderstanding/misinterpretation. Unfortunately, just about all of us grew up with that Gentile mindset and getting away from it can be long and difficult.
There's a lot of variety within those who are Hebraic roots. Some men wear talit (prayer shawls) and some don't. Some women cover, some don't. A lot of people have a menorah in their home and use it, a lot don't.
Our church is definitely unusual in that not only is the Hebraic perspective encouraged, it's taught to children and adults alike. We don't have a formal Torah study class though it would be great if we did. But when our pastor teaches or preaches he does it from that perspective rather than the Gentile perspective and it's amazing how so many confusing scriptures just pop alive and make sense. I don't agree with everything he puts forth but I want to learn from him and I'm definitely doing that. "
i know this is off balance but how can i express that? with out being my normal blunt (some say mean) self?
I do not see how one can do that. She says they tithe, instead of giving (different stuff) and offer small scarifices on an altar... i thought Jesus became the last sacrifice.
Anyway i know what i believe, i am just not sure how best to minister to her on this.
I do not see how a body can claim Christ and yet follow the jewish laws...
Here is a basic post she made on this:
"Well, Hebraic roots Christians generally believe the Old Testament is in full force and effect and that all appointed times (feasts and such) and commandments are still to be observed, including the Sabbath. Most of us eat according to the guidelines in the scripture and keep the feasts as commanded; Passover, Tabernacles, and others and don't adhere to the world's standards when it comes to food, special days. We really do ask ourselves, "What would Yeshua do?" but our answers are often different than those of our mainstream Christian brothers and sisters answers.
We believe in YHWH and that His son, Yeshua HaMashiach died on the cross for our sins and the sins of others. We believe He was buried, rose again, and will someday return.
In general, we're very cognizant of the fact the Jesus was Hebrew and practiced the Jewish faith as it was *at that time*. (It took my mother years to just accept the fact that Jesus was a practicing Jew and that Christianity as practiced today was NOT the faith of Jesus or his apostles) We don't believe He did away with the Old Testament, as so many think, but came to make it full, to expand it, to make it better, clearer, more joyful, etc. We think that because when the scripture is read from the Hebraic perspective, so much is seen that simply isn't visible otherwise. In other words, the scripture doesn't say he did away with the law - that's a misunderstanding/misinterpretation. Unfortunately, just about all of us grew up with that Gentile mindset and getting away from it can be long and difficult.
There's a lot of variety within those who are Hebraic roots. Some men wear talit (prayer shawls) and some don't. Some women cover, some don't. A lot of people have a menorah in their home and use it, a lot don't.
Our church is definitely unusual in that not only is the Hebraic perspective encouraged, it's taught to children and adults alike. We don't have a formal Torah study class though it would be great if we did. But when our pastor teaches or preaches he does it from that perspective rather than the Gentile perspective and it's amazing how so many confusing scriptures just pop alive and make sense. I don't agree with everything he puts forth but I want to learn from him and I'm definitely doing that. "
i know this is off balance but how can i express that? with out being my normal blunt (some say mean) self?