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If Nancy Pelosi lived in Texas, she would be indicted

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  1. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    http://www.irnnews.com/news.asp?action=detail&article=8626


    Two political action committees linked to House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi have been charged with attempting to circumvent to legal limits on campaign giving, the Federal Election Commission has ruled.

    According to the March 2004 FEC finding, Pelosi appears to have violated the same kind of arcane campaign finance regulation that spurred the indictment of House Majority Leader Tom DeLay this week.

    The San Francisco Chronicle explained at the time:

    "The FEC ruled that two Pelosi political action committees created to help Democrats in the 2002 elections were related instead of being independent and therefore violated a rule against giving more than the maximum $5,000 annual contribution."

    Mr. DeLay, by then under investigation for his own campaign finance problems, reacted sharply to the news about Pelosi's campaign finance irregularities, saying: "She has violated the law. It's in the facts."

    Pelosi operated two PACs: Team Majority and PAC to the Future.

    According to the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Team Majority reported 16 contributions of $5,000 each from donors who had already given the maximum to Pelosi's other PAC. Five of the donors gave to both PACs on the same day.

    Rather than referring the case to the Justice Department for prosecution, however, the FEC allowed Pelosi's two committees to negotiate "conciliation agreements" under which they were fined a total of $21,000.
     
    #1 carpro, Oct 4, 2005
  2. Daisy

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    Did she orchestrate the contributions? Did she attempt to launder them? It's not clear from the article whether she was actively involved in that or not.
     
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    Can someone explain to me what DeLay did (if guilty) that Planned Parenthood and other liberal groups that receive federal money aren't doing?

    Planned Parenthood receives Federal money... but they can't use it to support political candidates or other forbidden activities. :rolleyes: What a crock! It's a shell game. Bottom line is that they couldn't make the same kinds of "forbidden" expenditures if Federal dollars weren't paying for the ones that are allowed.

    If it works for Planned Parenthood and the Sierra Club... why is it wrong for other PAC's?
     
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    It's hard to say really.

    It appears the first indictment of DeLay was for a "crime" that wasn't against the law.

    Now Earle is getting a new indictment on new charges with a new grand jury.

    Beginning to look more and more like a politically motivated mugging.
     
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    There is no proof Delay did either of those things at this time.
     
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    "If Nancy Pelosi lived in Texas, she would be" UNEMPLOYED! [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    It's hard to say really.

    It appears the first indictment of DeLay was for a "crime" that wasn't against the law.

    Now Earle is getting a new indictment on new charges with a new grand jury.

    Beginning to look more and more like a politically motivated mugging.     </font>[/QUOTE]You are right. But as much as I would like for DeLay to be innocent, I think the mistakes made here will probably get him off the hook even if he knowingly did something wrong.

    As I said elsewhere, there should be repercussions for Earle if these charges have no real merit.
     
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    If Planned Parenthood and other "liberal groups" - do they count as corporations under that statute? - contributed money to Texas politicians 60 days before an election, then they ought to have been indicted along with the others. Are you alleging that they did?

    Are there any allegations that she did?
     
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    She had two PACS funneling money illegally to candidates. She was ordered to close one and the PACS and their treasurer were fined for the illegal contributions. Pelosi was not fined as far as I can tell.

    Similar to DeLay, there is no evidence that she laid hands on the money or individually directed where it was to go.

    Sounds eerily similar to DeLay. But it didn't take place in Texas where she could be indicted for it.
     
    #9 carpro, Oct 4, 2005
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