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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by benz, Feb 19, 2006.

  1. benz

    benz New Member

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    WE ARE FUTURE HEIRS AND SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF GOD.WE WILL BE KINGS..PRICES AND HIGH PRIESTS IN HEAVEN. Will we take part in some sort of creation? creating new species? have a board meeting with God to talk about ideas of some new creations?

    Another question what does the scripture mean when it says Saints will judge angels. Are they referrering to fallen angels or holy angels?
    Also we will be intimitly involved in praise and worship conduction in the new heaven and earth??

    thanks for the answers and feedback and your opinions..
     
  2. Linda64

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    We are NOT FUTURE HEIRS--we are already heirs of God and joint heirs of Christ--right now.

    Romans 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

    Romans 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

    As far as man being taking part in some sort of creation--I think not. God is the Creator--He does not need our help.
     
  3. tinytim

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    I agree with Linda
     
  4. webdog

    webdog Active Member
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    We "are" co heirs with Christ. This does imply present and future...not only present.
     
  5. Ron Arndt

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    Well.before you let your ego grow to big, realize your role in your future inheritance in heaven and the eternal state will all depend on your faithfulness and walk in the HERE AND NOW. This is where rewards come in. Not all will receive the SAME crowns. Some none at all. Many Christians who are still wordily will still have to GO ON LEARNING once they pass over into the next world. We will be given what we can handle spiritually.

    Do you suppose you will be more worthy than Daniel, Abraham or Paul himself? I think not. Most people on earth can't even handle the likely hood of life on other planets, let alone that there are millions of REAL angels. We don't even know what lies beyond our own solar system yet.

    So let God take care of it for us. Just be FAITHFUL and ask God to strengthen you in your daily walk with him. You will get there soon enough. Remember, one day at a time.
     
  6. mountainrun

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    As far as creation, I doubt that there will be any further creation.
    If there is, I believe it is strictly God's domain.

    The angels to be judged are the fallen angels.

    "Also we will be intimitly involved in praise and worship conduction in the new heaven and earth??"

    Yes. MR
     
  7. Marcia

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    What do you mean by this? Can you give scriptural support for it? What will the Christians who don't have further learning be doing?

    "Likelyhood of life on other planets????" What are you saying? It's Mormons (and some New Agers) who believe we go to other planets. Please clarify.
     
  8. Ron Arndt

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    Marcia

    Many Christians go through their whole life and just attend church but never really study the bible or the things of God. They are still babes in Christ and so really never grow spiritually. So they die in this state and pass over.

    When one passes over, one is still the SAME person one was while in their body while on earth. So what they still lack spiritually must be nurtured and taught to them in the the next world by teachers as they are guided.We never stop learning and growing spiritually, whether in this life or the world to come.

    Concerning life in the universe. We are not the only life form in this vast universe. Just like there are countless life forms in the inner universe under a microscope, there are also countless life forms in the outer universe that surrounds our planet. Someday, we will meet these other other beings. In our present barbaric and sinful state, we are unfit to fellowship with other life forms.

    We can not even coexist with other nations and races on our own planet, let alone life on other worlds. Knowledge that would be given to us by them would be our own undoing and their's as well.
     
  9. Marcia

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    Yes, it's true many Christians never really study the Bible, but that statement does not give scriptural support to your view about going to other planets or needing to keep learning. IN fact, the Bible says the opposite. There is complete and consummated redemption in heaven - I just finished a study of Revelation.

    No offense, Ron, but this is a New Age worldview, also the view of Spiritualists and mediums. It is not biblical.

    Who are the teachers? Higher evolved souls?

    There is no evidence of intelligent beings on other planets. The countless stars and galaxies reflect the awesome infinity of God who created a universe so vast man can't see the end of it. The stars and heavenly bodies glorify God, not man.


    I am very concerned reading your post, Ron. You have New Age beliefs. What makes you think other life forms are better?
     
  10. Uncle AlaGator

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    I believe we have some synthesis of different beliefs up in here.
     
  11. StraightAndNarrow

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    I wouldn't start counting those crowns just yet.

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    Mat 20:1 For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man [that is] an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard.
    Mat 20:2 And when he had agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard.
    Mat 20:3 And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace,
    Mat 20:4 And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way.
    Mat 20:5 Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise.
    Mat 20:6 And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle?
    Mat 20:7 They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, [that] shall ye receive.
    Mat 20:8 So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them [their] hire, beginning from the last unto the first.
    Mat 20:9 And when they came that [were hired] about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny.
    Mat 20:10 But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny.
    Mat 20:11 And when they had received [it], they murmured against the goodman of the house,
    Mat 20:12 Saying, These last have wrought [but] one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day.
    Mat 20:13 But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny?
    Mat 20:14 Take [that] thine [is], and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee.
    Mat 20:15 Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?
    Mat 20:16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.
     
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    Since the originator of this thread is Brethren and not Baptist it is being moved to the Other Christian Denominations Forum.
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