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Immigration Crisis Solution: Fix Central America

KenH

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“As people from these countries repeatedly tell me, the crisis comes down to this: What will it take for my homeland to become a place where I can safely live, work and raise my children?

Fifteen years ago, people in my native Colombia asked the same painful question. A seemingly endless cycle of violence fueled by insurgent groups and drug cartels, combined with widespread poverty, had made it difficult to believe that Colombia could ever escape its downward spiral.

But we did. Thanks in large part to Plan Colombia — a decade-long, $8-billion U.S. aid program to help rebuild institutions, eradicate drug production and expand social protection — Colombia has undergone an extraordinary turnaround. Although it still struggles with high levels of crime, violence has dropped to a fraction of what it was in the 1990s. Investment is pouring in, economic growth is strong and, most important, young people no longer see migration as the only route to a better life.”

A U.S. immigration solution: Fix Central America
 

InTheLight

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Please make up your mind. Do you want the US to get involved in other country's affairs or not?

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canadyjd

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So, American tax payers pour in 8 billion for Columbia. 8 billion for each of the other countries in central america.. how many more...5 more countries...so only 40 to 50 billion American tax dollars....i have noticed that liberals are very generous when they spend other people's money.

Hey, instead of that, let's use 30 billion to build a wall on the southern border.
 

KenH

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Even if a wall is ever built(hey, didn't Donald Trump say that Mexico was going to pay for it, not that the American people would have to front the money first with little to no prospect of being
repaid :rolleyes: ), it will still cost to maintain it. And people will still find ways to get over, under, or around it(there is a lot of water around this country, plus there is the Canadian border as well, and a lot of folks enter legally and then just stay after their visa runs out).

An analogy: You have hole in your roof that allows rain to come inside. So you put bucket down to catch the rain. Then the next time it rains, another hole and another bucket. And so on and so on and so on. The solution is to go to the source of the leaks and fix the roof, or in this case, Central America.
 
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Adonia

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Even if a wall is ever built(hey, didn't Donald Trump say that Mexico was going to pay for it, not that the American people would have to front the money first with little to no prospect of being
repaid :rolleyes: ), it will still cost to maintain it. And people will still find ways to get over, under, or around it(there is a lot of water around this country, plus there is the Canadian border as well, and a lot of folks enter legally and then just stay after their visa runs out).

An analogy: You have hole in your roof that allows rain to come inside. So you putket down to catch the rain. Then the next time it rains, another hole and another bucket. And so on and so on and so on. The solution is to go to the source of the leaks and fix the roof, or in this case, Central America.

Do you lock your doors at night? Having a wall is the same thing, as the idea is that you want to keep people from coming into your home that have no business being in it. As for paying for it, I am willing to see my tax dollars spent on anything that will enhance our national security.

In addition to the wall, I would like to see the U.S. military down there on the border and working to shut the whole thing down as tight as possible. Why do we have a military for if not to protect the sovereignty of our country? Make no mistake about it, what we have is nothing less than an invasion going on down there and it must be stopped..

As for going to Central America to fix things, the problem is that we are really not wanted down there, plus the amount of corruption amongst those governments even dwarfs our own. We are already sending millions of dollars to those countries and the only thing we get are more of their citizens coming here.
 

Adonia

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“As people from these countries repeatedly tell me, the crisis comes down to this: What will it take for my homeland to become a place where I can safely live, work and raise my children?

Fifteen years ago, people in my native Colombia asked the same painful question. A seemingly endless cycle of violence fueled by insurgent groups and drug cartels, combined with widespread poverty, had made it difficult to believe that Colombia could ever escape its downward spiral.

But we did. Thanks in large part to Plan Colombia — a decade-long, $8-billion U.S. aid program to help rebuild institutions, eradicate drug production and expand social protection — Colombia has undergone an extraordinary turnaround. Although it still struggles with high levels of crime, violence has dropped to a fraction of what it was in the 1990s. Investment is pouring in, economic growth is strong and, most important, young people no longer see migration as the only route to a better life.”

A U.S. immigration solution: Fix Central America

Your native Columbia? If it's so great why are you here?
 

KenH

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The author was born in Philadelphia when his father was attending medical school at the University of Pennsylvania, and had both Colombian and U.S. citizenship until he was appointed Colombia's ambassador to the U.S. in 1998(by law he had to give up his U.S. citizenship to be an ambassador). His is currently the president of the Inter-American Development Bank.
 

777

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An analogy: You have hole in your roof that allows rain to come inside. So you put bucket down to catch the rain. Then the next time it rains, another hole and another bucket. And so on and so on and so on. The solution is to go to the source of the leaks and fix the roof, or in this case, Central America.

You ought to direct this analogy to the Central America companies - it's their roof and they should be the ones responsible for repairing or replacing it. You don't fix some roof in a house you don't even own.
 

canadyjd

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An analogy: You have hole in your roof that allows rain to come inside. So you put bucket down to catch the rain. Then the next time it rains, another hole and another bucket. And so on and so on and so on. The solution is to go to the source of the leaks and fix the roof, or in this case, Central America.
A better analogy. Your neighbor jumps your fence, climbs on your roof and digs a hole. Once inside, they rob you and steal your children's savings account.

You fix your roof and console your son and ask your elected leaders to protect you and your family. They respond by calling you a racist.

Over and over, the neighbor jumps the fence, digs the hole and robs you and your family. The politicians tell you they are "dreamers", but you are a racist.

And liberals say, you know, if you'll spend 40 to 50 billion improving their country, maybe they won't jump the fence.

Build a better fence, and arrest them if they jump the fence.
 

KenH

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Dreamers had no choice about being here. They were brought here as children. They grew up here. They are Americans in every practical sense, except on paper.
 

KenH

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Okay, so now you're making the case for a wall.

Not at all. I think that is a bad, expensive idea that I seriously doubt will ever happen, especially not in the sense that Donald Trump talked about it during the campaign.
 

Benjamin

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The solution is to go to the source of the leaks and fix the roof, or in this case, Central America.
So it is our job to keep it from raining in the world, or fix everyone else's roofs, or freely and without consideration of the impact on our society allow them to come under our roofs?
 

Benjamin

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There are 177 Million people in Central America, more than 1/2 our population, never mind the rest of those in the world who also want to migrate here. So as far as Central American, neglect the rest, it is our job to keep it from raining on them, or fix their roofs, or freely and without consideration of the impact on our society allow them to come under our roofs?
 

777

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It's their culture - crime and corruption. And their citizens send most of the money they make here back home yet they're still dirt poor.

Dreamers had no choice about being here. They were brought here as children. They grew up here. They are Americans in every practical sense, except on paper.

Uhhh...no. This post is a summary of every open border advocate talking point.

Dreamers: 25% illiterate, half speak little English

they bring their culture to the US, not the other way around. They aren't American citizens.
 
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