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In AWE of Thy Word

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  1. Ed Edwards

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    Gail Riplinger's New Book:

    title: In AWE of Thy Word

    Subtitle: Understanding the King James Bible:
    It's Mystery & History Letter by letter.

    click here --&gt; In AWE of Thy Word &lt;-- click here

    "This book shows how the words of the
    King James Bible are the same word
    meanings and sounds     across languages,
    across cultures and across time.
    No other Bible is like it!"

    I think i know where this is going:
    the letter placement is divine and inerrant.
    So now you can feel free* to use your equidistant
    spacing Bible code program(s) on the English Version.
    The Bible becomes trivialized as a divining mechanism :(

    *or, you can use mine for $100 :D
     
    #1 Ed Edwards, Jun 5, 2004
  2. Ed Edwards

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    Look at this lie:
    "KJV translators, as youths, were eyewitnesses of an era when men would rather be burned at the stake than deny one word of the English Bible — even dying to defend the Bible's built-in dictionary!"

    Well, i guess it is half true/half lie -- but aren't they all.
    This statement fails to mention that the "KJV translators, as youths,
    were eyewitnesses" because they were on the side that did
    the burning     :(
     
    #2 Ed Edwards, Jun 5, 2004
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    "No Bible word is safe from the stain of those
    who dip their pens in the dark world of Greek
    and Hebrew lexicons. Anyone with a lexicon can
    spray its ink graffiti on any page of the Holy Bible,
    using the hot air generated by liberal lexicon authors."

    [​IMG]

    BTW, does anybody know what a lexicon
    might be?
     
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  4. Ed Edwards

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    Deuteronomy 18:10-12 (KJV1769):

    There shall not be found among you any one that maketh
    his son or his daughter to pass through the fire,
    or that useth divination, or an observer of times,
    or an enchanter, or a witch, 11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer    .
    12 For all that do these things are an abomination
    unto the LORD: and because of these abominations
    the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

    OR, much easier to understand:

    Deuteronomy 18:10-12 (HCSB):

    For example, never sacrifice your son or daughter as a burnt offering.
    And do not let your people practice fortune-telling
    or sorcery, or allow them to interpret omens,
    or engage in witchcraft,
    11 or cast spells, or function as mediums or psychics,
    or call forth the spirits of the dead.
    12 Anyone who does these things is an object of horror
    and disgust to the LORD. It is because the other nations
    have done these things that the LORD your God will
    drive them out ahead of you.

    Fortune telling (or divination) from the letters and words
    of the Bible itself would be exceptionally onus
    before God, it is strictly prohibited.
     
    #4 Ed Edwards, Jun 5, 2004
  5. rsr

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    To be fair, Ed, this is Chick talking, which means it's an ellipsis of an ellipsis of an ellipsis, by which you can make practically any written source say anything (which Riplinger has done.)

    But I thought these interesting:

    "The KJV's words are like 'the Word,' Jesus Christ, who is "holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher..." (Heb. 7:26)."

    "The NKJV, NIV, TNIV, HCSB, ESV, and NASB are bound together, like the thorns plaited on Jesus' brow, to pierce the name JESUS (e.g. Acts 3:13, 26, 4:27, 30, 7:45; Heb. 4:8) and completely remove the name JEHOVAH from their pages. Worse yet, unbelieving German lexicon editors and new version margins (e.g. HCSB, KJV-ER) incorrectly replace the name JEHOVAH with Yahweh, an off-shoot of the pagan Canaanite god, Yaho."

    Of the KJV translators: "God said, "I have not spoken in secret," in lexicons hidden on scholars' bookshelves, but "in the volume of the book" in "other tongues," such as English (Isa. 45:19, Heb. 10:7). The phrase, "in the Greek" and "in the Hebrew" is too often immediately followed by echoes from the "bottomless pit," warns Rev. 9:11. Unlike today's editors, the KJV translators' final authorities were Bibles, not lexicons. They saw the KJV as the final "perfected" and "finished" English Bible. "Satan," they warned, benefited from "various editions."

    She's got chutzpah, anyway.
     
    #5 rsr, Jun 5, 2004
  6. Dr. Bob

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    I have always wondered about Satan being behind Ruckman and Gail and Jack Chick, et al. Not only has their pernicious and evil "doctrine" divided Christianity (or at least a small part of it), but has led to a whole sect of "bibliolaters".

    Is "demonic" to strong a word? Or at least influenced as "doctrine of demons"??
     
    #6 Dr. Bob, Jun 5, 2004
  7. skanwmatos

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    Satan is not behind Ruckman, Riplinger, or Chick. It is positively medieval to think that insanity is caused by demon possession! :D
     
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    Wonder about you, too, skan. [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Seriously, I don't think I'm the only one to see the "only sect" as a schizmatic sub-group that is harming fundamentalism.

    Dr. Bob-the Lion-Hearted
     
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  9. skanwmatos

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    I too see the KJOVs are a sub-group of fundamentalists who are harming to position of historic fundamentalists. But, even though they are a sub group, they are still fundamentalists. [​IMG]
     
    #9 skanwmatos, Jun 5, 2004
  10. Ransom

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    Ed Edwards announced:

    Gail Riplinger's New Book:

    Thanky you, that's all I needed to know!
     
    #10 Ransom, Jun 5, 2004
  11. Ed Edwards

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    Hey, i bought a copy,
    should be to me in 14-20 days.

    I'm a student of comic theology :D
     
    #11 Ed Edwards, Jun 5, 2004
  12. Ransom

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    I figure if I want a copy, the used ones should be hitting the stores in a few months. [​IMG]
     
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  13. Ed Edwards

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    In this case is "hitting" to be taken
    literally or as a metaphor? [​IMG]
     
    #13 Ed Edwards, Jun 5, 2004
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    There are many kinds of fundamentalists—Christian fundamentalists, Islamic fundamentalists, KJO fundamentalists, and many others.
     
    #14 Craigbythesea, Jun 6, 2004
  15. skanwmatos

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    Once again you have stooped to the fallacy of "guilt by association." KJVOs are both Christian and fundamental. Get over it and get on with your life. Trying to link them to Modernism and now removing them from the realm of Christianity and placing them in the box occupied by non-believers such as Islamics is simply dishonest.
     
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  16. Ed Edwards

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    I got my copy of
    IN AWE OF THY WORD (AVPubs, 2003)
    by G.A. Riplinger today
    in the mail

    Took me 3.2 minutes to find this deception
    on page 722. Took me longer than
    that to type it up.

    Luke 11:54 "Laying wait for him, and
    seeking to catch something out
    of his mouth, THAT THEY MIGHT
    ACCUSE HIM    ."

    "NKVJ note" "OMIT"

    Well it is true, but deceptive.
    The phrase "THAT THEY MIGHT ACCUSE HIM"
    is NOT in the New King James Version (NKJV)
    note -- it is in the NKJV text.
    After teh nKJV entry it says:

    "Jehovah Witness Version" "OMIT"

    So it is trying to deceive us that
    the New KJV is, like the Jehovah Witness
    Version, omitting "THAT THEY MIGHT
    ACCUSE HIM". But the nKJV does not
    omit "THAT THEY MIGHT ACCUSE HIM".

    Luke 11:54 (NIV):
    waiting to catch him in something he might say

    The subject of the sentence is obvious
    from the previous verse, and is the
    referrant of "they" in the KJV.

    S.Luke XI:54 (KJV1611):

    Laying wait for him, and seeking
    to catch something out of his mouth,
    that they might accuse him.

    Note the meaning of the two versions
    are the same. It is deceptive to say
    that "THAT THEY MIGHT
    ACCUSE HIM" is missing. The NIV phrase
    says the same thing in different words
    and has the same meaning.

    Some guys (defined in v. 53) were
    listening to Jesus so they might trap
    Him in His words. Note how very like
    these bad people, G.A. Riplinger is,
    she reads MY BIBLE that she might
    accuse it. I find that UGLY.

    I have nothing but the highest praise
    for the King James Version, 1769 edition
    (KJV1769) which she uses. Why does she
    denigerate my Bible? The NIV is my Bible.

    [​IMG]
     
    #16 Ed Edwards, Jun 12, 2004
  17. Marcia

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    From Riplinger's new book:
    This and other excerpts I read there is worthy of the Twilight Zone. How sad to see this. :(
     
    #17 Marcia, Jun 12, 2004
  18. Ransom

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    I just chose a passage at random out of the KJV and tried to read it out loud, tapping my foot to the accented syllables. Needless to say, there's nothing "equally proportioned" about them at all.
     
    #18 Ransom, Jun 12, 2004
  19. Ed Edwards

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    Oh forget that.
    How about self-defining words?

    dEVIL - see, it defines itself
    demon - doesn't define itself

    Guess which the KJV uses and which
    the Nasty Infidel's Venom (NIV) uses [​IMG]

    I note my Bible, the HCSB uses "devil"
    32 times but the KJV1769 has it 57 times
    (in the New Testament). Obviously the
    KJV1769 is twice as "dEVIL" as
    the Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB) [​IMG]
     
    #19 Ed Edwards, Jun 12, 2004
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    Can't wait to get it. [​IMG]
     
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